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Mopar Pro Stockers #2077628
05/21/16 11:41 AM
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Sure looks like its going to be a long season for them, just hope they can pick it up soon. Being 2 MPH down to the better GM cars is going to be a tough task.


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Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: Semi-Hemi] #2077648
05/21/16 12:25 PM
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I feel your pain. If you take out the Summit cars AJ looks better but the new rules certainly seemed to throw the Mopars in a bigger loop than the others.

Line/Anderson figured something out early the other guys are still looking for.

This is second round Topeka:

Psn---Num-Driver, Home Town, Car Type---------------Qual-ET--Qual-Spd-To

1 8 Jason Line, Mooresville NC, '15 Camaro 6.578 210.37
2 361 Bo Butner, Floyd Knobs IN, '15 Camaro 6.591 209.59
3 2 Greg Anderson, Mooresville NC, '15 Camaro 6.600 209.30
4 730 Shane Gray, Mooresville NC, '16 Camaro 6.623 208.46
5 40 Alex Laughlin, Granbury TX, '15 Camaro 6.632 207.50
6 3 Allen Johnson, Greeneville TN, '16 Dart 6.636 208.20
7 4 Chris McGaha, Odessa TX, '15 Camaro 6.638 208.30
8 5 Drew Skillman, Bargersville IN, '15 Camaro 6.642 208.07
9 1 Erica Enders, New Orleans LA, '16 Dart 6.643 207.30
10 677 Aaron Strong, Milton WA, '15 Camaro 6.658 207.24
11 6 Vincent Nobile, Dix Hills NY, '15 Camaro 6.667 208.10
12 25 Jeg Coughlin, Delaware OH, '16 Dart 6.670 206.61
13 52 Deric Kramer, Sterling CO, '16 Dart 6.675 206.54
14 55 V. Gaines, Lakewood CO, '16 Dart 6.679 206.76
15 547 Mark Hogan, Dubuque IA, '09 GXP 6.925 200.05
16 538 Dave River, Maquoketa IA, '10 Cobalt 19.806 66.09

Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: Semi-Hemi] #2077650
05/21/16 12:30 PM
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It threw a bunch of teams a curve, not just Mopars. Being down .03-.08 in et and 1.5-2 mph is hard to make up. Did anyone notice Andersons and Lines reaction times last week? It looked like they were playing it safe knowing they could drive around everyone else. Just like WJ did in his heyday.

Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: Semi-Hemi] #2077721
05/21/16 02:50 PM
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I won't even waste my time watching it now... the new rules basically put the Summit cars way out in front after the past few seasons being so competitive... they sure know how to ruin a good thing! I have to say I find watching Street Outlaw guys and other similar groups on youtube 100 times more entertaining anymore.


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Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: Semi-Hemi] #2077726
05/21/16 02:56 PM
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Allen and Roy seem to be making good progress for all the turmoil they've gone through.

Team Summit have a great EFI guy AND a pretty huge budget. Pretty hard combination to beat.


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Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: Semi-Hemi] #2077729
05/21/16 03:15 PM
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Hopefully some new intake manifolds will get them a full tenth and 2 mph!

Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: Semi-Hemi] #2077753
05/21/16 04:26 PM
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I won't even waste my time watching it now... the new rules basically put the Summit cars way out in front after the past few seasons being so competitive... they sure know how to ruin a good thing!
yup!they really need Summit as a sponsor

Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: Silver70] #2077773
05/21/16 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Silver70
I won't even waste my time watching it now... the new rules basically put the Summit cars way out in front after the past few seasons being so competitive... they sure know how to ruin a good thing! I have to say I find watching Street Outlaw guys and other similar groups on youtube 100 times more entertaining anymore.


Wait...what?? How did the new rules put the Summit cars out front????? Their rule book is the same as everyone else's.

Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: cudadoug] #2077781
05/21/16 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted By cudadoug
Originally Posted By Silver70
I won't even waste my time watching it now... the new rules basically put the Summit cars way out in front after the past few seasons being so competitive... they sure know how to ruin a good thing! I have to say I find watching Street Outlaw guys and other similar groups on youtube 100 times more entertaining anymore.


Wait...what?? How did the new rules put the Summit cars out front????? Their rule book is the same as everyone else's.


I sometimes wonder on when they got access to all of the rules. The Summit boys definitely seem to be at least 1/2 of a season ahead of everyone else.

John


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Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: Semi-Hemi] #2077794
05/21/16 05:45 PM
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Look at Elite Camaros...Vince Nobile is driving EE championship car from last year...and they are not close to the Summit cars...EFI threw everyone a curve...and the KB cars has it figured out better so far...

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Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: Semi-Hemi] #2077820
05/21/16 06:28 PM
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Yes,the Summit cars are good. After that it's pretty close. AJ looks like he making ground. The rules are the same for everybody. Just one team has figured out their combo sooner. Happens in every heads-up class in any type of racing.
Doug.

Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: 70AARcuda] #2077822
05/21/16 06:29 PM
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Buckner is real sharp on EFI.. he showed Line(being
they are the same teams).. AJ will come around with
Wilson coming on board... this isnt even a half season
and people are crying.. how long did it take PS to get
to this point... YEARS... look back a few years and
there were other teams that were way quicker
wave

Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2077840
05/21/16 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Buckner is real sharp on EFI.. he showed Line(being
they are the same teams).. AJ will come around with
Wilson coming on board... this isnt even a half season
and people are crying.. how long did it take PS to get
to this point... YEARS... look back a few years and
there were other teams that were way quicker
wave


Bo "Butner" didn't show Jason anything on any EFI program, Jason does the tuning for all 3 PS cars. Bo doesn't do any EFI tuning on his own stockers either.

Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: Semi-Hemi] #2077841
05/21/16 07:16 PM
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P/S has always had one team that seems to dominate for awhile, then everyone else catches up and someone else rises to the top.


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Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: LSP] #2077845
05/21/16 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By LSP
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Buckner is real sharp on EFI.. he showed Line(being
they are the same teams).. AJ will come around with
Wilson coming on board... this isnt even a half season
and people are crying.. how long did it take PS to get
to this point... YEARS... look back a few years and
there were other teams that were way quicker
wave


Bo "Butner" didn't show Jason anything on any EFI program, Jason does the tuning for all 3 PS cars. Bo doesn't do any EFI tuning on his own stockers either.







According to Anderson Butner is sharp on the EFI stuff
wave

Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2077850
05/21/16 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By LSP
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Buckner is real sharp on EFI.. he showed Line(being
they are the same teams).. AJ will come around with
Wilson coming on board... this isnt even a half season
and people are crying.. how long did it take PS to get
to this point... YEARS... look back a few years and
there were other teams that were way quicker
wave


Bo "Butner" didn't show Jason anything on any EFI program, Jason does the tuning for all 3 PS cars. Bo doesn't do any EFI tuning on his own stockers either.




According to Anderson Butner is sharp on the EFI stuff
wave


He might be, but he's not tuning anything he or anyone else is racing.

It's just like the magic Hogan intake manifold thing, might keep some from concentrating on what really matters.

Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: LSP] #2077852
05/21/16 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted By LSP
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By LSP
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Buckner is real sharp on EFI.. he showed Line(being
they are the same teams).. AJ will come around with
Wilson coming on board... this isnt even a half season
and people are crying.. how long did it take PS to get
to this point... YEARS... look back a few years and
there were other teams that were way quicker
wave


Bo "Butner" didn't show Jason anything on any EFI program, Jason does the tuning for all 3 PS cars. Bo doesn't do any EFI tuning on his own stockers either.




According to Anderson Butner is sharp on the EFI stuff
wave


He might be, but he's not tuning anything he or anyone else is racing.

It's just like the magic Hogan intake manifold thing, might keep some from concentrating on what really matters.




What ever
wave

Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2077857
05/21/16 07:52 PM
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V. Gaines is really struggling and is giving up about .16 in the first round tomorrow against the Summit car. I hope he doesn't end up losing his sponsor.


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Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2077865
05/21/16 08:05 PM
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[/quote]

According to Anderson Butner is sharp on the EFI stuff
wave [/quote]

He might be, but he's not tuning anything he or anyone else is racing.

It's just like the magic Hogan intake manifold thing, might keep some from concentrating on what really matters.


[/quote]

What ever
wave [/quote]

You're right, I don't know anyone or anything, I'm making it up as I go lol.

Re: Mopar Pro Stockers [Re: LSP] #2077878
05/21/16 08:37 PM
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I just repeated what Anderson said on the air..
nothing more
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