does anyone know what the differences are between W5 head and these so far they seem to be much more raised port hence the need for the intake spacer in the valley and the intake bolt pattern is std A .......what is the exhaust pattern and location ? W5 ? W5 being higher than W2 ? would W5 rockers work also ? maybe easier than the Victor big block ? I have W5's and would look at these as an up grade

I would like to add that the victor head OOTB will bolt on a LA block and you can use any standard LA intake,it will bolt right on. The rockers will be available in kit form, bolt on, soon from at least 2 suppliers. The head gasket is standard LA or W8 if you use the extra head bolts. I believe SCS is making a intake gasket and push rods would need to be made to order. That's it bolt on power using parts that are ready to use. We saw 100+ HP over a good set of W2's with no over the top prep, port work, ect. The head is so much better because the shape and angles are optimized, not just bigger. Edelbrock is asking for feedback from Allen and a few others who have a set and will correct areas that need attention. All the contacts are in this topic so if anyone is ready they are more than willing help out. We have to use these products, get them out in the real world so we will have something besides 30 year old parts to choose from. The more of these that are out there the more parts that will be produced.

BTW, We should have some on track results in 2 weeks as we are going to the Sports Nationals in Bowling Green next week and will get to the track when we get back.

Ray

If it don't rain next week end I may make the trip to Bowling Green to watch this animal run.

Bittersweet! Great....no more 40 year old heads but still a limited supply of 40 year old 340 blocks or 20 year old 360....both of which will need a lot of specialized machining to take full advantage of the power potential. 800 hp will make short life of even a decently prepped OE block....maybe now the Edelbrock invested time and R&D into producing the first LA head redesign in probably 15-20 years maybe Dart...or SOMEONE can get their act together and get us a nice USEABLE race block at an AFFORDABLE PRICE!

Ritter is doing it. He's doing the blocks.

I will never understand why guys thing the GM crowd buy [censored] and bolts it on? It don't happen. The difference is they get to make so many they work out the kinks in months not years.

And, it don't matter anyway. Chevrolet can produce the biggest pile of steaming monkey dung and the fools would buy it and fix it, or the aftermarket would save its ass.

All you have to do is look at the ball/stud rocker system. Junk. Enough said, because it ain't very often I hear a Chevy guy [censored] about paying for shaft rockers. Now all the Chrysler guys love the magnum because they can drop in a hydraulic roller cam. Don't matter the valve train is 60 year old, 60 year obsolete crap.

Go figure.

A ritter block is expensive and still needs tons o expensive machine work to be used. There are plenty of compareable chubby blocks that can be bought, fixed and run for less than buying a ritter block.

A magnum does not use a ball and stud and pretty much anything built with
a magnum head or LA (factory heads anyhow)don't make enough RPM to take advantage of a shaft rocker system.

A magnum ain't so great just fer the roller cam... the heads are better flowing on the intake and exhaust than any factory LA, nice machined valve cover rails with 10 bolts that don't leak, re-useable valve cover gaskets, ex bolts that don't have watter in em, no heat cross-over, one piece pan gasket, much stronger block, cheap reliable roller cam, much more compression tolerance than any LA heads, should I keep going I am out of breath

I dont know how many Ritter blocks that you've got running.. I spent $4,000 fixing mistakes on mine.hope there getting better

Didn't say they are perfect. AFAIK, as I haven't talked to him in years he had to do all the tooling and everything.

Geebus, give it a chance. More Chevy blocks are made in a month than he has made.

Just don't love the magnum. It ain't all that. Don't do hydraulic roller cams anymore. My gaskets don't leak. The block is no stronger. No more compression tolerance.

I'd say you are just wrong.

Edit: I guess you think a bolt down rocker is different from the ball stud, and technically it is. It's all the same junk of a different flavor. Most Chevy guys I know don't run anything but shafts. I guess they are stupid.

Just to add to what ray and Jason have said, the heads from edelbrock are a pretty much ready to bolt on piece right out the box, I changed the valve job to suit my preferences. The one major area of work is the intake. I had a solid 2 days worth of porting on the intake. Edelbrock did tell me today they intend to build an intake with bigger ports and a 4500 carb flange on it. The one major deficiency I saw in the heads was his, when I cut the spring pockets to accept 1.625" diameter triple valve springs it made pinholes in the top of each exhaust port. I didn't cut the pocket any deeper just cut the O.D. larger to accept the triple spring. I brought this up to edelbrock and it's supposed to get resolved.

the real question i have is the quality of block and issues that had to be fixed..if or when you have time..thanks

Just my point....a $3000 block that needs $4000 worth of machine work and then it may not even be useable. Nothing against Ritter but even AMC has a block made by Indy. Pontiacs have blocks, there is the new Track Boss Cleveland based Ford....
An aluminum A8 is like $8000.....[ Moparts Family Site - Keep it Friendly ]!!!!!
All these other blocks are being sold for $2000-3000 and we can't get something useable for under $5000....and then it's like hens teeth!!!!
Not a fan of Magnum stuff simply because it is OE and wasn't designed for 800+ hp.
Now we have a head that will bolt on and has easy 800ho potential and no block...kind of ironic...when we had blocks...expensive as they were...the only 800hp
potential platform we had was w8....maybe 9..stuff and was just as expensive as the block. Now we have heads that almost anyone can afford and no blocks....maybe if Vic did these heads 10 years ago Chrysler wouldn't have stopped production...

I am not talking about hydraulic rollers, and 11.5:1 with headers and a double pumper...

I mean we need a block that can tolerate 15:1, .800"+ lift, sheet metal intakes, dual Dominators, maybe alky, and even though I am not a fan of it...nitrous....
With these heads and these types of parts why can't they make 1200+hp.....Magnum or a 40 year old 340 isn't going to last long under all that!

Ha! Could even touch an R block for anywhere NEAR this even 10 years ago....

Could buy three for what some guys have into their Ritters to make them
Useable...

Magnum blocks are stronger, and I will be proving that fact very soon with my 410 stroker on a stock magnum block......

Just go to a gen 3... FAR better than a magnum... thats my
next move

Pure BS.... I was offered $1500 for a new race block I have $1100 in machine work receipts...... I see blocks all the time for sale, ive sent people links.... ready to go blocks could be $2500 and the majority of the people wouldnt buy them.

Production of this small block stuff stopped for two reasons.

1.) NHRA killed Pro Stock Truck
2.) Chrysler got out of asscar.

Those are the FACTS.

I understand Chrysler leaving asscar, but I will never ever understand why NHRA killed PST. I know, from personal conversations with people who were involved, that Chrysler could track sales of trucks DIRECTLY to how the Dodges did in PST. So much so in point of fact, that Dodge refused to even change the most minute detail in body work, even though said body was hurting ET and MPH. It was the visual Dodge needed and a good day at the track produced sold trucks.

LOL, PST was a main factor of me buying my Dakota R/T back in 2000, I still have my Todd Patterson T shirt