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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076555
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Went 730 @ 6800 and 643 torque @5500 with 32 degree, first pull, went to lunch, start tuning when we get back.

Ray

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076591
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With 380 intake flow and 15:1 compression you should have enough raw potential to get into the upper 700's. Just depends on carb, cam, headers, etc.

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076600
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This is a throttle stop engine so peak will not be the same as an all out super stock or comp engine , but i agree needs a different cam and more carb The thought right now is we will see around 770 before we call it

Ray

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076655
05/19/16 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Jason B
Just to report Its ALIVE and running on the Dyno the unicorn lives!!


up.... let us know the out come of that bad boy
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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: sst404b] #2076658
05/19/16 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted By sst404b
This is a throttle stop engine so peak will not be the same as an all out super stock or comp engine , but i agree needs a different cam and more carb The thought right now is we will see around 770 before we call it

Ray


Did you ever say how big the engine is? I don't recall...
Brian


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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2076662
05/19/16 05:56 PM
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He said 4.185x4 which equals 440 c.i.

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076685
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Well since I'm done dynoing I'll report the results for the buckners and everyone else. We finished at 796hp@7400 and 689tq@5800. As Ray and Jason have stated this engine is built for a throttle stop and durability. I feel like with a different cam, a touch more compression, and a bigger carb 850+ is attainable. My dyno is a bit on the conservative side. My customer Steve Kent has a SS/AH car that we've been 8.20's with and on my dyno it makes 990hp compared to others making 1050+ that we run with or outrun usually. Just giving you guys some info. Thanks, Allen

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076688
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Just got a text from the shop went 796 @7400 with an adapter and a shop dominator and 781 @7200 with the 4150. Conclusion it needs a big carb and a custom cam but it ain't too bad for a 59* small block. The victor heads are for real and worth every penny.

Ray

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: SS4446] #2076694
05/19/16 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted By SS4446
Well since I'm done dynoing I'll report the results for the buckners and everyone else. We finished at 796hp@7400 and 689tq@5800. As Ray and Jason have stated this engine is built for a throttle stop and durability. I feel like with a different cam, a touch more compression, and a bigger carb 850+ is attainable. My dyno is a bit on the conservative side. My customer Steve Kent has a SS/AH car that we've been 8.20's with and on my dyno it makes 990hp compared to others making 1050+ that we run with or outrun usually. Just giving you guys some info. Thanks, Allen


Allen, Did you used to go by J Allen Sherman. Bought my stocker lifters from you about 12 years ago. Glad to see you still digging hard. Did notice that are still hitting some Natl events and so on. Good Job on this build. matt btw: Welcome to MOPARTS

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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076696
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Awsome, and thank you for taking the jump and sharing it!

Looks like maybe we can live with the silly ex bolt pattern.

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076698
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He is the same J Allen

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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076703
05/19/16 06:49 PM
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Yeahhhhh!!! Really nice results... Thanks for share this build with us! Finally a real SB Mopar OOTB Heads!


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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076705
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Yes I'm J. Allen Sherman, same guy...lol...the exhaust bolt pattern is but one of MANY hurdles on this project. We had planned to re drill the bolts on the exhaust flange in our CNC mill but we didn't do it on ray and Jason's engine for fear of creating a fit issue for the headers in the car. No one makes a head stud kit for the engine so I made up a kit myself using arp parts that if anyone needs I can supply. The Hughes rocker system is a nice product, but there are some modifications to them necessary to make them optimal. Edelbrock did a really excellent job on the ports, valve angle, and the complete design of the head and the super victor intake is a nice intake and a really great intake after some porting. All in all there's a lot of potential with these heads and intake but it's not a pull it out the box and bolt it on package.

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076723
05/19/16 07:16 PM
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Its a TRAP!
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Its a TRAP!
^^^ Thanks for the info smile Great #'s too!


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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: DARTH V8Я] #2076732
05/19/16 07:23 PM
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Thanks for the post and the info. After seeing them on the drawling board for so long its great to see that with some work they deliver as promised.


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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076734
05/19/16 07:24 PM
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Damn nice build ! Thanks for the post.

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: SS4446] #2076738
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Nicely done... great numbers also.. now go have fun
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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076759
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Thank J Allen Sherman he and Mike and Jimmy at the shop did a great job. Now it's time to bring that bad boy home its owner will be loanly no more lol

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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076774
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That's a bad little man!

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076832
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...but what did you have for lunch?? laugh2 thanks for sharing the build and look forward to some "in the car" updates. cool stuff!!!

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