Re: Preview my "new" Standard-Port Victor heads (LOOOOONG!)
[Re: sixpackgut]
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05/07/16 12:57 AM
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Pretty crazy stock flow #'s.. that's like a 600hp cyl. head.
When it takes more than a sweet mullet to prove you rule at the trailer park..
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Re: Preview my "new" Standard-Port Victor heads (LOOOOONG!)
[Re: sixpackgut]
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05/07/16 02:33 AM
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Hate to make you feel bad but those LS3 numbers are way low
I don't feel bad. The Victors are what they are, and should be more than enough head for my POS.
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Re: Preview my "new" Standard-Port Victor heads (LOOOOONG!)
[Re: BradH]
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05/07/16 09:47 AM
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sixpackgut
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Hate to make you feel bad but those LS3 numbers are way low
I don't feel bad. The Victors are what they are, and should be more than enough head for my POS. Your junk always runs good when it does run. Im sure we lost some good tech advise over the past ?6 years because your car hasnt been running
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Re: Preview my "new" Standard-Port Victor heads (LOOOOONG!)
[Re: BradH]
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05/07/16 02:38 PM
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The plan was to see how doable it was to get these std port Victors to flow an honest 350cfm without making them as big as the Hughes CNC version, which is advertised at 313cc, and had the intake port opening big enough to where Brad ended up having one of his M1 manifolds welded up so he could port match it to the CNC heads. I wanted to do it without making the port opening any bigger. The results posted are from a port with a runner volume of 294cc, and the port opening was left untouched. I also checked the volume of the untouched head and it was 276cc.
It's really a shame that edelbrock decided to fill in the bowls on these heads. At least 1/2 the time spent porting these things was wasted just getting the bowls opened up to a more normal size.
To confirm my observations about the ootb exhaust flow on #7 vs #1, here are the test results:
#7 Lift-------I/E .100---64.2/51.0 .200--126.1/104.1 .300--183.4/143.8 .400--238.8/167.4 .500--281.6/174.8 .550--297.4/176.0 .600--311.8/176.0 .650--302.4/176.0 .700--308.4/176.0 .750--317.5/176.0
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Re: Preview my "new" Standard-Port Victor heads (LOOOOONG!)
[Re: BradH]
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05/07/16 02:47 PM
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For comparison, here are some numbers from an ootb early version head from 2008.
Lift------I/E .100---69.6/51.9 .200--143.8/102.9 .300--194.3/149.9 .400--247.7/184.7 .500--291.8/204.8 .550--311.0/212.6 .600--316.8/216.5 .650--324.5/220.4 .700--330.2/223.1 .750--334.8/224.3
Those early version heads were the best flowing ootb std port heads I've ever seen. With some minor chamber work and some bowl blending they were easily into the 340's. Now to get close to those numbers you have to do some fairly substantial porting. The newer version might be "new", but IMO..... Not even close to "improved". More like a BIG step backwards in terms of being able to buy a decent piece and getting impressive results ootb, or with minimal reworking.
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Re: Preview my "new" Standard-Port Victor heads (LOOOOONG!)
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05/08/16 01:15 PM
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The plan was to see how doable it was to get these std port Victors to flow an honest 350cfm without making them as big as the Hughes CNC version, which is advertised at 313cc, and had the intake port opening big enough to where Brad ended up having one of his M1 manifolds welded up so he could port match it to the CNC heads. I wanted to do it without making the port opening any bigger. The results posted are from a port with a runner volume of 294cc, and the port opening was left untouched. The end result, IMO, is similar to the Chapman 260 cc Stage VIs. I'd passed twice on opportunities to buy the Chapmans years ago, but always thought they had most of "the right stuff" for my type of build.
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Re: Preview my "new" Standard-Port Victor heads (LOOOOONG!)
[Re: BradH]
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05/08/16 07:35 PM
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The Chapmans always escape my memory when talking about BB Mopar heads. Probably because of their relative "unobtainium" status.
they were very nice pieces though.
I'd be pretty surprised if there aren't already more sets of TF BB Mopar heads in the hands of consumers than all the Chapman stage VI's combined.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: Preview my "new" Standard-Port Victor heads (LOOOOONG!)
[Re: BradH]
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05/12/16 10:49 AM
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The heads arrived yesterday, but I didn't get a chance to open one of the boxes until this morning. I'll try to take some pics in the next couple of days to show the finished rework of the heads compared to an OOB piece.
Last edited by BradH; 05/12/16 10:50 AM.
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Re: Preview my "new" Standard-Port Victor heads - PICS NOW!!!
[Re: BradH]
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05/14/16 06:49 PM
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OK, starting to upload pics (4:48 PM). Bear (bare?) with me...
Last edited by BradH; 05/14/16 06:50 PM.
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