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1965 383 Lifters - unique to 67 & down? #2067413
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In buying a camshaft I have came across on Comp Cams site that the '67 & down use a different lifter. Other brands don't mention anything about the lifter difference. Anyone know the story with that? I have read it's possibly something with the tip of the pushrod. I am running stock pushrods.


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Re: 1965 383 Lifters - unique to 67 & down? [Re: grancuda] #2067418
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If you're going to run the original 1965 pushrods, you'll see that the lifter end is tapered down and fits snugly into the pushrod seat of the lifter.
That style of pushrod should be paired with the. 67 and earlier lifters.
If you want to use the more common 68 and later style, you'll want to replace the pushrods with 1968 and later versions.


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Re: 1965 383 Lifters - unique to 67 & down? [Re: grancuda] #2067419
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Are the 65 pushrods weaker? They are in good condition.


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Re: 1965 383 Lifters - unique to 67 & down? [Re: grancuda] #2067420
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Not that I'm aware of, you just need to use the correct lifters.

Do your pushrods have one end that is noticeably smaller than the other end?


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Re: 1965 383 Lifters - unique to 67 & down? [Re: grancuda] #2067426
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I believe the early pushrods were a different length also

Re: 1965 383 Lifters - unique to 67 & down? [Re: grancuda] #2067429
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Originally Posted By grancuda
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Then you should be good if you use the early style lifters.


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Re: 1965 383 Lifters - unique to 67 & down? [Re: Chuck@Best_Machine] #2067432
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Originally Posted By Chuck@Best_Machine
I believe the early pushrods were a different length also


The early pushrods are shown as .060 longer.
I think the early lifters have the pushrods sitting deeper in the cup, so they needed to be longer.


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Re: 1965 383 Lifters - unique to 67 & down? [Re: grancuda] #2067478
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I'm pretty sure Chrysler went from 5/16" pushrod ends to 3/8" in 1968. People seem to get away with mixing and (mis)matching.

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Smaller radius on the pushrod end "ball" pre 67

Re: 1965 383 Lifters - unique to 67 & down? [Re: grancuda] #2067500
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Correct as the early rods are longer.You cant use them with new lifters.All cam makers listed 68 up lifters before dont know if they still do.Summit has nice push rods for stock valve setups with new style lifters.Used them when we did the 62 413 and the 67 Chrysler and the other early BBs I did.Rocky


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Are the early lifters even still available ?


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Originally Posted By 67_Satellite
Smaller radius on the pushrod end "ball" pre 67


1967 and older. 1968 first year with both ends the same.

Re: 1965 383 Lifters - unique to 67 & down? [Re: grancuda] #2067759
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I have a complete set of 67 back pushrods and lifters. They are out of a 67 GTX that had about 48k on them. Yours for the cost of shipping. Typically when people do a cam upgrade they just buy new lifters and push rods.


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Just to be clear, you cannot use 67 and earlier lifters w/ newer push rods and you cannot use older pushrods with early lifters. The pre-67 have tapered ends. The tops are the same size. As mentioned earlier, just order a set of Summits.


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Originally Posted By Hand of Doom
I'm pretty sure Chrysler went from 5/16" pushrod ends to 3/8" in 1968.


Nope, '68 and later are 5/16" both ends, the '67 and earlier are 5/16" top and 1/4" bottom.


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Re: 1965 383 Lifters - unique to 67 & down? [Re: JohnRR] #2068835
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Originally Posted By JohnRR
Are the early lifters even still available ?



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