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Re: lifter valley plate for trick flows
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Interesting that Edelbrock hasn't stepped up to the plate yet to make one of these  Hmmm... I wonder if anyone else has one programmed in the CNC file yet  I wish these heads were available when I built my engine  Gus 
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Re: lifter valley plate for trick flows
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The billet valley plates have a taper on the edges since they are designed to fit under an Indy head. When you use them with a standard head such as the Edelbrock or Trick Flow then you end up with a narrow gap between the knife edge and the head. You can fill in the gap with RTV but I think it will leak fairly quickly.
I can think of a couple of possible solutions but I'll have to make the parts myself to fix the issue since nobody else has solved the problem yet.
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Re: lifter valley plate for trick flows
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i did this for my Stage 6 heads. a little bit of sealer when you screw it down & its done.
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Re: lifter valley plate for trick flows
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i did this for my Stage 6 heads. a little bit of sealer when you screw it down & its done. Are you runnin a pcv valve or a vac pump...............
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Re: lifter valley plate for trick flows
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The billet valley plates have a taper on the edges since they are designed to fit under an Indy head. When you use them with a standard head such as the Edelbrock or Trick Flow then you end up with a narrow gap between the knife edge and the head. You can fill in the gap with RTV but I think it will leak fairly quickly.
I can think of a couple of possible solutions but I'll have to make the parts myself to fix the issue since nobody else has solved the problem yet. If you do I'd buy a few from you...maybe TF would carry them too! Might work well with their MW head when released!
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Re: lifter valley plate for trick flows
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I use an Indy style valley plate with RPM heads. I put Rite Stuff between my intake and the bevelled edge of the plate. There is a fairly large sealing surface in that area. I've been running this way for a couple years with zero leaks. Any pics............
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Re: lifter valley plate for trick flows
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I don't know if you can see it but here's a picture
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Re: lifter valley plate for trick flows
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Are the ports raised or significantly larger that an oe pan wont work?
I had some stage 6 heads that the ports were raised higher than stock stage 6s. I made a factory style, port encircling pan for that set up. not a big deal for me.
Seems that if a special pan is needed it would be very easy to have made.
I have access to a laser and brake. Let me know if this is something that needs to be on the market.
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Re: lifter valley plate for trick flows
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The billet valley plates have a taper on the edges since they are designed to fit under an Indy head. When you use them with a standard head such as the Edelbrock or Trick Flow then you end up with a narrow gap between the knife edge and the head. You can fill in the gap with RTV but I think it will leak fairly quickly.
I can think of a couple of possible solutions but I'll have to make the parts myself to fix the issue since nobody else has solved the problem yet. If you do I'd buy a few from you...maybe TF would carry them too! Might work well with their MW head when released! If the guys at Trick Flow think about the problem at all they'll raise the ports on the MW version. Once the ports are raised and the intake surface extended this whole problem goes away. If they release a set of MW heads with stock port location then they just shoot themselves in the foot since single 4bbl intakes won't fit and the flow will be poor.
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Re: lifter valley plate for trick flows
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My old B1BS heads had an alum. bar bolted under the edge of the intake port of the heads that was milled 45 degrees. The bara also had small threaded holes for allen screws.
I still have some pics, if anyone would like to see! Sure.............
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Re: lifter valley plate for trick flows
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i did this for my Stage 6 heads. a little bit of sealer when you screw it down & its done. Are you runnin a pcv valve or a vac pump............... neither, i have a catch can it vents into.
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Re: lifter valley plate for trick flows
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The billet valley plates have a taper on the edges since they are designed to fit under an Indy head. When you use them with a standard head such as the Edelbrock or Trick Flow then you end up with a narrow gap between the knife edge and the head. You can fill in the gap with RTV but I think it will leak fairly quickly.
I can think of a couple of possible solutions but I'll have to make the parts myself to fix the issue since nobody else has solved the problem yet. If you do I'd buy a few from you...maybe TF would carry them too! Might work well with their MW head when released! Ditto that, I'm going to be needing one my self with the removeable inspection plate.
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