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528 0r 572 hemi build #2058132
04/20/16 01:56 AM
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looking for information on either a 528 0r 572 ci Hemi build..reliable 650-700 horse motor on pump gas..street/strip application..what have you guys put together and had luck with??


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Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: 72N96RR] #2058225
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I would opt for the 572 (or bigger) for the torque and low rpm, plus you can get away with a less aggressive valvetrain for long life. I know nothing about them, but want to follow this thread to see what folks think of the Indy Cylinder head Legend stuff. We have a lot of Indy dealers on hear, so you wouldn't have to deal with Indy direct. Fast68plymouth is one, Todd Marsh I believe is also.


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Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: gregsdart] #2058282
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I have a 528 hemi with Legend heads for sale in the hemi section. Probably just what you are looking for. Has less than 4000 miles. I can deliver. PM me- your inbox is full!


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Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: 72N96RR] #2058288
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Either one is good. If you were using Indy heads I believe you would use their Hi-Po's. I would rather use the Edelbrocks. 700 hp with a pump gas, flat tappet, single 4 bbl, 528/572 is easy. I've put a couple together for my buddies and they are great. The new blocks look good. I buy my components from Ray Barton. It will be fun.


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Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: 72N96RR] #2058298
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I am just finishing up my 540 that has been a work in progress for a long time. After talking to several Hemi builders, I went with Ray Barton for the reciprocating assembly and a few other parts. Mostly because of his involvement with the World blocks like I was using.

I have been told more than once that the 572 creates a noticeable amount more windage that would need to be dealt with. So I went with the 4.25 stroke.

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Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: 72N96RR] #2058397
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I'm doing a 472,im hoping it will turn out ok

Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: 72N96RR] #2058407
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I'm going 526

Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: 72N96RR] #2058425
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I built a 572, but I wanted over 800 hp out of it. A 528 will do what you want easily.

I'm building a pump gas 540" hemi for my dad's car. Unported MP/Edelbrock casting heads, Vanke modded street hemi intake w/ two 750 Carter AFBs, custom hyd. roller. Should be around 600 or better hp in a very mild package.


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Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: 72N96RR] #2058433
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I would do a 572, or even a 605. There is no replacement for displacement. And more inches doesn't cost a dime more in this instance.


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Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: 72N96RR] #2058445
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I'm going to assume you have a new block with 4.490 bore, correct? If so look at either a 4.250 or 4.375 stroke crank with the BB Chevy rod journal sizes and use a set of 7.100 long BB Chevy style forged steel H beam rods with 10.5 to 1 compression with iron heads or maybe even up to 11.0 to 1 with aluminum heads for pump gas thumbs The heads, exhaust, intake and carbs and cam will deteremine what the exact HP and torque will be up
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The deciding factor on the stroke length will probally be if you want to run a internal oil pickup or a external oiling system. The longer strokes, over 4.375, especially with the stock Mopar rod journals sizes and stock type OEM or aluminum rods, force you to use a exteranl oiling system to make the rods not hit the interanl oil pickups shruggywork scope

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Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: 72N96RR] #2058570
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Here is the 572 Hemi my buddy built....15 pulls on the dyno....No issues 9.5:1 pump gas 750hp...

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...tml#Post2043116


And here is my 605 Hemi from last year I drove over the summer and ate a cam lobe, and I just finished it up with a roller ca this time and it goes back in the car this weekend hopefully.....

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...ld-updated.html

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Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: 72N96RR] #2058856
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The Indy HiPo heads are probably the best bang for the buck if you go 572 or larger. Mine flowed 443 corrected at .700.

Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: 72N96RR] #2058933
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The Edelbrock Victor Jr's are similar and you don't have to put up with Indy. When I got my Indy HiPo's the installed height was so far off I thought it was impossible. When I got my Edelbrocks I said wow, this is nice.


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Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: 72N96RR] #2058944
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I went with Stage V heads and had Modern CNC port them. I haven't built the motor yet but the heads seem to be good quality castings. As far as size I'm doing a 540. 4.375 bore and a 4.5 stroke. I can bore to 4.4 and 4.5 in the future if or when required.


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Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: 72N96RR] #2058966
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I went 572" for street/strip/pump gas, and I am well pleased. 10.5 to 1 , Stage V heads by MCH , and a mild solid roller spec. by Dwayne Porter.
I am still playing with intake and carburetor choices.

Mark

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Re: 528 0r 572 hemi build [Re: 72N96RR] #2058972
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Originally Posted By 72N96RR
looking for information on either a 528 0r 572 ci Hemi build..reliable 650-700 horse motor on pump gas..street/strip application..what have you guys put together and had luck with??


Talk to Tim Banning at FHO. I'd go with the 572.







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