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Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2031600
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What kind of valve spring pressures and what rockers?

Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2031621
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T&D paired rocker, 1.75 ratio

Springs are Manley 221425 2.00" 340 seat 837lbs open, 1.150 coil bind and we are .050 from coil bind with .024 lash

Here is a pic of the pan, it has 4 drain backs, 2 on each head (front & back).

The 1# main cap cross bolt hit the oil pump so I had to cut it off.


Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2031636
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Very Nice!


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Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2031770
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Wow.... just wow!!

Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2031843
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That should get it done............good work........


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Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2032000
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looks amazing

Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2032175
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Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2032712
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Nice motor Wade.

Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: HardcoreB] #2032766
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Given the HP level on spray, I'm surprised the pistons didn't have all those machined corners blended & radiused before being coated.

Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: Plumb Wired] #2033478
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Originally Posted By Plumb Wired
Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
Moroso's custom shop does the covers.


Al, how do you order from their custom shop? I need a set of B1 & W8 valve covers.



Someone has been dragging his feet with billet rocker covers whistling


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Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2033583
03/18/16 01:43 AM
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first time iv seen studs on side of block instead of bolts, was that a special order ?

Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2033585
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Studs come with a World block....


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Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: BradH] #2033637
03/18/16 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted By BradH
Given the HP level on spray, I'm surprised the pistons didn't have all those machined corners blended & radiused before being coated.


There are no sharp edges on the Pistons, they did slightly radius them but they could have been a little more aggressive.

Here is a picture of the nitrous softening Bucks did to the chambers. (I have to go and touch them up because we had to surface them for a small scratch from when we machines the pads down for the T&D rockers.)


Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: LA360] #2033649
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Originally Posted By LA360
Originally Posted By Plumb Wired
Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
Moroso's custom shop does the covers.


Al, how do you order from their custom shop? I need a set of B1 & W8 valve covers.



Someone has been dragging his feet with billet rocker covers whistling


Alan, not throwing stones at you specifically but this is what is really getting on my nerves anymore. It takes forever to get anything done. Chassis shops, engine/machine shop and paint & body guys are the worst. lol spank


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Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: Plumb Wired] #2034330
03/19/16 08:03 AM
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I hear where you're coming from Mike, my friend who bought the orange Dart from over your way is having the same problem. Put his car to have some chassis work done, was told it'd be done in 3 weeks. 5 weeks later, still hasn't been started.

As for the Rocker covers, been bogged down with my divorce. I'll have something done by June

Sorry for the hijack!


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Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2034471
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Originally Posted By WadeMetzinger
Originally Posted By BradH
Given the HP level on spray, I'm surprised the pistons didn't have all those machined corners blended & radiused before being coated.


There are no sharp edges on the Pistons, they did slightly radius them but they could have been a little more aggressive.

Here is a picture of the nitrous softening Bucks did to the chambers. (I have to go and touch them up because we had to surface them for a small scratch from when we machines the pads down for the T&D rockers.)



Is the "softening" that 'semi-hemi" cut on the opposite side from the spark plug? I have a set of B1s that have been milled to 47cc chamber and that "semi hemi" cut would go a long way to making the chambers larger.

Edit: I looked at my 47cc chamber heads and they have been surfaced all the way to the edge of the 2.44 intake valve seat. No room to "semi hemi" left.

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Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2034496
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That looks like a big scoop cut in that pic......but it's not. Usually it's only about 2 CCs in the taper cut. So no, just "softening" the chamber in your 47CC heads isn't doing much

Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: Monte_Smith] #2034896
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is my eyesight getting that bad, or does it appear from the pic there seems to be chatter marks on the valve heads ? if it is just the shadows of the pic, ok. but if it is chatter, what is it's purpose ? can you catch it with your finger nail ?
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Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2136747
08/19/16 05:13 PM
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Finally finished this one and got it on the Dyno.

I was hoping for 800-850hp but expecting just 800 so I and my customer were very pleased with the 904hp number.

This was with 91 pump gas that I picked up at the Quick-Stop on the way to the dyno.

The header gaskets we used were hanging into the exhaust ports close to 1/4" all the way around, the headers were some that were just given to me and have mufflers on them so there were a few more HP left on the table.

I'd like to publicly thank Monte for helping me design of several aspects of the motor (and of course the awesome work on plumbing the intake).

I'm not a nitrous guys so my work is done with it but it's build and designed to handle an additional 800+ HP of giggle juice.



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Re: 572 B1 NOS Drag Week motor pictures [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2136773
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Nice numbers, but....... You ran it without any crank case breathers?


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