Re: Any experience with MuscleMotors?
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The focal point is to go to a local joint.
Good luck. Today, I'd agree... In days gone by, I'd have had no problem dealing with... Jim Hale... Dan Dvorak... Bob Reed... Dick Landy... With the exception of DLI, don't know these other dudes current status...
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Re: Any experience with MuscleMotors?
[Re: GTXMEX]
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02/11/16 12:36 AM
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Someone whose name would be familiar to everyone had a bad experience with MM. It was a mistake a child wouldn't make, and happened just prior to an event. Sorry, I can't give more details other than: 1. give them exact instructions in very clear language: operations, parts to be used, measurements, prices 2. make sure they acknowledge this 3. when you get it back, assume nothing, examine everything.
Maybe they're better now than they were, but that's what I would do.
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Re: Any experience with MuscleMotors?
[Re: polyspheric]
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02/11/16 01:15 AM
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Well.....23 replies and no one has any MM experiences?
Ok, here's one.
I spent 24K at MM for an engine and it's currently at a different shop, and I'm hoping they can salvage it...true story.
PSO headed 632 from MM. Cracked cylinder, loose valve seats, low oil pressure, low cylinder pressure. ..... Now its a door stop....
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Re: Any experience with MuscleMotors?
[Re: camastomcat]
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02/11/16 11:20 AM
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... The only times I've been disappointed with having a build done, it was when I sent it long distance... Unfortunately, I've even had "the guy down the street" do poor work and/or charge for work not actually done. Caveat emptor, regardless of how far the shop is from home.
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Re: Any experience with MuscleMotors?
[Re: BradH]
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02/11/16 08:35 PM
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I worked with MM about 12 years ago on main parts for my engine (496B) and just recently on a freshen, EFI tuneup and dyno test. Little bumps were handled smoothly. Very satisfied with the parts, engine work and esp. the EFI tuneup. Also helps that my basic B engine with Ed heads runs very well... in the car and on the dyno. Summary post attached. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...tml#Post2006836
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Re: Any experience with MuscleMotors?
[Re: GTXMEX]
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02/11/16 11:00 PM
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Almost all big shops are capable of doing clean work, and meeting their time constraints - but it's not 100%.
The problem is that you don't know when they're going to do that. When I put a penny in the machine, I expect a stick of gum every time, not when they feel like it.
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Re: Any experience with MuscleMotors?
[Re: GTXMEX]
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02/12/16 04:34 PM
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I'll join the chorus: Brian @ IMM. What performance level do You want or can afford? This shouldn't be this difficult. You burn through the list of shops in So Cal there are more up here in Nor Cal as well. Chose one and go forward.
Last edited by Dduster; 02/12/16 04:34 PM.
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Re: Any experience with MuscleMotors?
[Re: FastmOp]
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02/12/16 11:03 PM
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Muscle Motors has treated me well. Eric has always been a straight shooter. I have a set of there CNC -1s on my turbo car. So Eric sold you a set of CNC'd Indy-1 heads? I bought a Rollmaster double roller timing chain from Eric in 2007...it fit perfect.
PSO headed 632 from MM. Cracked cylinder, loose valve seats, low oil pressure, low cylinder pressure. ..... Now its a door stop....
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Re: Any experience with MuscleMotors?
[Re: GTXMEX]
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02/13/16 05:53 PM
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A friend of mine bought some CNC-1 from MM and he could see daylight through all the valves.
69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200# best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft best 60ft 1.36
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Re: Any experience with MuscleMotors?
[Re: steve660]
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02/13/16 06:27 PM
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Muscle Motors has treated me well. Eric has always been a straight shooter. I have a set of there CNC -1s on my turbo car. So Eric sold you a set of CNC'd Indy-1 heads? I bought a Rollmaster double roller timing chain from Eric in 2007...it fit perfect. I have a stroker kit in another block, had them cut pushrods to my spec before I picked up a lathe. The head kit I had them upgrade springs, valves,for my turbo cam. I will use MM again and again. They have always treated me well I have never had someone else build me a motor lol
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Re: Any experience with MuscleMotors?
[Re: GTXMEX]
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02/13/16 07:46 PM
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I've seen Muscle Motors' quality (or lack thereof) first hand. I would not let them do a lawnmower engine for me. I only wish that I had taken photos of the parts before we sent them back. I didn't have a digital camera back then. Eric was nothing but rude to me on the phone.
'67 is an abbreviation of 1967 67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet They are not interchangeable.
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Re: Any experience with MuscleMotors?
[Re: old yeller]
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02/14/16 02:21 PM
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I know its hard to please everybody and some people shouldn't have race cars I tried to stay out of this but i have to draw the line when it comes to Eric the guy doesn't have a mean bone in his body Inside or Outside of the shop in over the 20 years or so i have never even heard him say a swear word....75% of mopar people are cheap they want to go fast buy [censored] crap and wonder why chit breaks or why nothing fits like it should....With that being said
I support Donald Trump for President......lol Not sure if these comments are directed at me or not. Seems like it. I do demand high quality. One of the things I expect is when you are paying for heads to be machined and fully assembled, as in ready to bolt on the short block, they should not have a handful of chips from the porting process fall out of the water jacket when you remove them from the plastic bags. I also expect that the custom made pushrods do not have S bends in them from the ends being pressed in. I also expect that when you call to bring up these issues, you are not talked down to with comments like "we build race engines for lots of people and they run fine". I stand by my evaluation and will never use them again.
'67 is an abbreviation of 1967 67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet They are not interchangeable.
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