Re: Team Moparts - Engine Masters Challe
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You know, I think Carl may have a point. If I remember correctly, There was a post with the subject " If you were to build an Engine masters engine, what would you build?" I'm wondering if there was there ever a "hey, if you would like to participate in the engine masters engine please post here" ? If there was such a post , I certainly do not recall it.
well I never got see carls complaint but I can clear things up a little for you Greg
this thread was started by Andy(451boy)
I'm actually serious about this. How about if we gather up the parts and build an entry for the Enginemaster competition? I might go in for the shortblock, someone else would need to provide a set of heads, another guy might have a good carb, etc. Total prize money is $100K or more depending on contingency. If we won we would split the prize. If not, either sell the engine or tear it back down and send the parts back to the people who put them up.
470 inch maximum, pump gas, solid lifter cam. Dyno pulls from 2500 rpm to 6500 rpm so the motor has to make torque. Rules are at www.enginemasters.com if you're interested. The motor is going to have to make 750 hp to be in the ballpark so leave the weenie crap at home.
I'm not at all convinced what the best Mopar big block combo would be to go after. I'm kind of leaning towards a long stroke small bore setup such as a 4.125 stroke in a 383 block. The lower deck block seems to be good from a weight and stiffness standpoint but the shorter intake manifold hurts.
Not at all sure on the heads, maybe E heads that are massaged to the hilt or maybe Indy SR's? The need for torque probably rules out the B1 and big Indy stuff but I don't really know.
who is that guy?
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Re: Team Moparts - Engine Masters Challe
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I can't believe I did not see that.
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Re: Team Moparts - Engine Masters Challe
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I can't believe I did not see that.
Greg, it was back in early February.
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Re: Team Moparts - Engine Masters Challe
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Brian, I know you have every post ever posted at Moparts. I don't know if thats good or bad. LOL I knew you would post that. I knew it. You must have 100 GB of storage.
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Re: Team Moparts - Engine Masters Challe
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I saw that post but have nothing to add. Bummer.
GO MOPARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Team Moparts - Engine Masters Challenge
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Ray Barton will be bringing a Hemi. Dick Landy will be bringing a Hemi. Tim Davis will be bringing a Wedge. Crower Motorsports will be bringing a 392-based Hemi. Nelson Racing Engines will be bringing a Wedge. T&B Performance will be bringing a Wedge. Performance Research will be bringing a Wedge. High Flow Performance will be bringing a Wedge. Kristopher Nelson (an independent builder) will also be bringing a Hemi.
According to: www.enginemasters.com/rules.shtml
ROCKER ARMS: Any commercially available*, stud-mounted rocker arms are acceptable. Shaft-mounted rockers are not allowed unless they were an OEM offering (i.e. Mopar). Multiple rocker shafts per cylinder head are not allowed. All rocker arms must retain the OEM ratio and mounting location.
If "Multiple rocker shafts per cylinder head are not allowed", how can a hemi engine be entered in the competition?
Is the hemi to be banned from another competition?
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Re: Team Moparts - Engine Masters Challenge
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revised rules are not posted yet , the hemi is not banned as it is a factory setup , what is not allowed is changing stud mounted rocker system to a shaft system . i think its jesel that makes a full roller rocker for chevies , you replace the stud with a roller fulcrum setup ...
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Re: Team Moparts - Engine Masters Challenge
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Wow! I guess I snoozed bigtime on that post. I never realized Moparts was entering the competition. It will be interesting to see the results though! Good Luck! ~Mike~
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Re: Team Moparts - Engine Masters Challenge
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I personally will be watching that 392 build up...this competition is a win/win situation for all of us.....win or loose. TrWaters
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Re: Team Moparts - Engine Masters Challe
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I missed the post. What block is being used? Hell I've got a 6/31/71 400 block in the garage. I'll donate it to the cause if they want to build a low deck stroker. And depending on the time frame I'll even deliver it to Jesse's place in Center ND.
i didn't really want this to turn into a discussion of sorts , but since you asked .
we are building a low deck , using 9/13/71 block that i bought from Tony D , may turn into a donation , just a hair under the 470 inch limit , head choice is super limited for wedge motors , right now i won't say what we are running but lets just say that any GOOD head is nmot allowed ...
once we hit the intial dyno session what's going on behind the scenes will be open for all to see , read only , because of the nature of this competition and the fact that you can read moparts without being a registered member , ie: the lurkers , the forum can't be accessed for casual observance .
if there is anyone that would like to help out to really make this a MOPARTS effort , what we could use is a LOAN of parts in a few areas , things like a jesel belt drive for the dyno sessions to make cam changes faster , big tube production headers to try on the dyno , no fenderwell , must be total chassis exit . also when the time comes to get it from DRAM in florida to jesse in north dakota maybe a moparts relay of sorts , this is show and race season , a corner of a car trailer or pickup bed for a crate to move it would help alot , then back from jesse to me in mass so i can run it up and down the coast .
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Re: Team Moparts - Engine Masters Challe
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jesse , 3 hours from me to the "other shop" ... and about 6 hours to philly for the prelims ...
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Re: Team Moparts - Engine Masters Challe
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jesse , 3 hours from me to the "other shop" ... and about 6 hours to philly for the prelims ...
The Prelims are in Philly????? Oooooo I might have to go watch my port work in action
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