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Mix metallic paint code in single stage without metallic? #2004992
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I want to paint my jeep a factory color that I like, it's a desert sand color. In factory form it's a metallic color. I want to do it in a matte finish. This is a low budget build and it's a Jeep, I have no interest in the extra expense of base/clear. I was thinking a cheap single stage urethane paint. Everything I have read says metallic is very difficult to spray in single stage and have not look like crap after. That being said, is it a big deal to have a metallic paint code mixed up but without the metallic particles? I just want the color, and am aware it won't be exact as it won't have the metallic sheen. Last body shop supplier I went to didn't want to do it. Don't think I'll be going there again. Any thoughts?

Re: Mix metallic paint code in single stage without metallic? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2005026
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Metallic regardles of the paint is just a "metallic" paste compound added during the mix, just tell your mixer to not add the paste....simple

Re: Mix metallic paint code in single stage without metallic? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2005119
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I agree with dayclona, leave the metallic out is as easy as that. The color will not be the same with the metallic out of it, sounds like you know that.

Re: Mix metallic paint code in single stage without metallic? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2005120
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Ummm ive got 3 quarts of Ditzler DDL-3697 Dark Brown Poly 84-85 (Base only) id almost give away.

I had 4 quarts but its awsome for shop projects that need a good thick brushed on.

But it should go to a better use.

Re: Mix metallic paint code in single stage without metallic? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2005122
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look at some paint chips to find a color you like.

with some metallic paints, sometimes almost all of the tints are metallic. if you leave the metallic out the color might not be remotely close to the color you want.
sometimes it's the other way. 90% of the tints are black or dark brown with a little yellow, white mixed in and 10% metallic
a lot of the time the metallic lightens up the color and makes it what it is. if you leave out the metallic the color might be close to black or something muddy like dark brown.

I just painted a light charcoal gray metallic paint on a car today. 70% of the color was black tint with a little yellow and white, then 30% of it was metallic. if I left out the metallic I would have painted a black shaded mud paint. the metallic tint made it a light charcoal paint.

for the record I have been mixing and painting PPG water based basecoat for the last 3 months.


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Re: Mix metallic paint code in single stage without metallic? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2005247
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Edit: After doing some more searching, I was actually able to find pics of someone who had this exact color code mixed up without the metallic. Looks about like I expected, the same color but without the pop of the metallic flakes. For this project, it'll do.

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Re: Mix metallic paint code in single stage without metallic? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2005248
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Additional info : Just about any color can be turned into a matte finish by the supplier adding a "flattening agent" to the mix..A good mixer will know how much to add.. A "so-so" mixer will posibly give you some in another container to add if your test spray does'nt suit you..

Re: Mix metallic paint code in single stage without metallic? [Re: screamindriver] #2005396
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Originally Posted By screamindriver
Additional info : Just about any color can be turned into a matte finish by the supplier adding a "flattening agent" to the mix..A good mixer will know how much to add.. A "so-so" mixer will posibly give you some in another container to add if your test spray does'nt suit you..




Agreed, if the OP wants to eliminate the metallic and have a flat/matte finish as well with a single stage, a flattening agent can be added at the time of a spray out, usually you don't exceed no more than 30% flattening agent to the base

Re: Mix metallic paint code in single stage without metallic? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2005430
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Yes last time we did a 30% flattener as well. Finished was the desired matte.

Re: Mix metallic paint code in single stage without metallic? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2005444
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So did the factory spray T7 for example in single stage? How did they spray it quick and correct? Sorry to the op for getting slightly off topic.

Re: Mix metallic paint code in single stage without metallic? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2007201
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The problem with whole car single stage metallic paint is when you try to buff it out and go through a layer in places, making a mismatched color area, or you spray it on wrong and get tiger stripes. The factory didn't buff most metallics so the issues weren't there.


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