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Re: 440 engine build w/existing drivetrain [Re: Von] #1997230
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Re: 440 engine build w/existing drivetrain [Re: Cab_Burge] #2004512
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I like and use the Summit brand 1970/71 Street Hemi and 440 6 pak oil pan and 6 pak 3/8 oil pickup in any 1966 to 1971 B and E body B or RB motors, stock strole or big stroke thumbs scope it is a exct replica of the stock 1970/71 6 quart (+1 for the filter)Street Hemi and 440 6 pak cars thumbs scopeReasonably priced and fits well also, nothing to dislike shock


Could you provide me with a part number on this please? I looked on their website and could not find it?

Re: 440 engine build w/existing drivetrain [Re: jcastle1] #2004839
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The 440 source 500 inch stroker kit is a big bang for the buck. 3 years ago I built a pump gas 500 with a similar size cam and hand ported 906 heads, single dominator, 3000 stall, 3400 lbs 69 road runner and it went 10.90 with a little carb jetting. guy has never had any problems, just get in it and race.

Re: 440 engine build w/existing drivetrain [Re: jcastle1] #2005136
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Originally Posted By jcastle1
my thought was to buy the 505 kit from say 440 source, use my 906 arrowheads that have been in a box for 10plus years. use the racer brown cam i mentioned above. and be good to go?



Sure you can do that. I am sure with all the opinions everyone has given you your head must be spinning like crazy. And its all good advise but everyone builds their engines to what they like so many opinions are different.
If you want to build the 505 with 906 heads and the Racer Brown cam then go ahead and build it. Like Dog Days said it will still have much more torque and power as it will run no matter what bigblock head you put on it. You can always upgrade the heads and cam later. But the advise I would give here is to do your homework and think about what upgrades if any you plan to do later so if you change heads you will still have the comp you need and if you change the cam later you will want to be sure you will have enough piston to valve clearance. Just take the time to figure if you plan to make changes later and consider it in your build so it will be less work later if you plan on upgrades.

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Re: 440 engine build w/existing drivetrain [Re: 383man] #2005278
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Thanks everyone for listening to all my ignorant questions, I placed my order with 440s last night, here's what I bought:

440 >> 512. (4.250" stroke/7.100" rod) Stroker Kit

440.512.5060

4.350
(.030 over) -17
(Dish) 1.480" -.015"

84CC 86CC 88CC

10.05 9.89 9.74

Re: 440 engine build w/existing drivetrain [Re: jcastle1] #2005282
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I decided to use my existing six pack (will need an RB intake)

and arrowheads that I already have that are 906 with larger valves (until I save for 2 more years to get some Sidewinders)

Need advice on a damper brand (stock pulley location)(open to offers)

and Timing Chain set brand/model,
water pump/housing combo(which brand,model)
Oil pan/pickup recommendation

Re: 440 engine build w/existing drivetrain [Re: jcastle1] #2005313
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Hey there are no ignorant questions as thats why most are here. To try and help each other out. None of us know it all and your questions are good questions that you were looking for help with. I will say I buy most of my parts from Mancini as they treat me good with good service. I bought my timing chan and gears from them as I bought the chain and gear set where the crank gear has a bunch of keyways to help when degreeing the cam. I also bought my Moroso oil pan and windage tray from them. Here is the link to the balancer I use on my street/strip car. Its worked great for 5 years so far and all the stock pulleys lined right up and is SFI aproved. Ron

http://www.manciniracing.com/prosport1.html

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Re: 440 engine build w/existing drivetrain [Re: jcastle1] #2007398
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Thanks, it's a toss up between that one and the 440s one. Did you use studs or bolts on the main caps?

Re: 440 engine build w/existing drivetrain [Re: jcastle1] #2007932
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If you want to have the block aligned hone then switch to studs, if not don't twocents Same thing on switching to after market main caps up
I tried to find the Summit part number for thier Hemi/440 six pak oil pan, I looked on one of the ones I have left in the shop and the white box(it is shipped in another bigger brown cardboard box) it came in doesn't have a part number on it shockI treid searching Summits web site also and couldn't find it now confusedYou might want to call them and tell them your looking for thier 1970/71 6 quart oil pan for the 1970/71 440 six pak and Hemi motor. Order thier 3/8 oil pickup for the 6 pak motor with the pan also up Don't switch to the 1/2 inch pickup, it isn't worth it twocents IHTH


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Re: 440 engine build w/existing drivetrain [Re: Cab_Burge] #2009055
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thanks for the advice Cab! New toys arrived from FedEx tonight, Yay!
balancer? pro race brand or 440s?

mancini waterpump/housing combo or 440s?

Re: 440 engine build w/existing drivetrain [Re: jcastle1] #2009061
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Originally Posted By jcastle1
Thanks, it's a toss up between that one and the 440s one. Did you use studs or bolts on the main caps?



If you ment me I used ARP main studs in my eng. Ron

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thanks!

Re: 440 engine build w/existing drivetrain [Re: Cab_Burge] #2018390
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If you want to have the block aligned hone then switch to studs, if not don't twocents Same thing on switching to after market main caps up
I tried to find the Summit part number for thier Hemi/440 six pak oil pan, I looked on one of the ones I have left in the shop and the white box(it is shipped in another bigger brown cardboard box) it came in doesn't have a part number on it shockI treid searching Summits web site also and couldn't find it now confusedYou might want to call them and tell them your looking for thier 1970/71 6 quart oil pan for the 1970/71 440 six pak and Hemi motor. Order thier 3/8 oil pickup for the 6 pak motor with the pan also up Don't switch to the 1/2 inch pickup, it isn't worth it twocents IHTH

does it fit for stroker?

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