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833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? #1976890 12/27/15 01:19 AM 12/27/15 01:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA. Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here
Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA.	Anyone ever seen this? I just mocked up two different bell housings I have with an 833 o.d. 4 speed I have and the drivers side bottom bolt hole on the trans is off maybe 3/8" or so. See pics.... Last edited by Quicksilver440; 12/27/15 01:23 AM.

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: Quicksilver440] #1976907 12/27/15 01:56 AM 12/27/15 01:56 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio ProSport I Live Here
ProSport I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio	Wow that's off by alot. Did you buy the Passon 4 speed overdrive? 1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: Quicksilver440] #1976934 12/27/15 02:46 AM 12/27/15 02:46 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA	The case for my son's 18-spline left the factory with OD gears in it. It fits fine. Not sure what's up with yours.

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: ProSport] #1976960 12/27/15 03:16 AM 12/27/15 03:16 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA. Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here
Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA.	I wish...lol...no this a plain 833 OD my boys are putting in a 64 dodge Sweptline pickup they are building. I just found another old post where someone found something similar and just slotted the hole in the trans....

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: Quicksilver440] #1976966 12/27/15 03:35 AM 12/27/15 03:35 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA	What bell housing are you using? What motor?

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: Quicksilver440] #1977044 12/27/15 12:38 PM 12/27/15 12:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina sgcuda master
sgcuda master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina	I've run a lot of stick cars, and have never seen that before. But I don't see any reason why you couldn't just slot the hole and bolt it up without any issues. Just make sure that you have the right retainer diameter against the bellhousing openning. The retainer opening keeps the trans from moving up and down/left and right. The bolts supply the clamping force to the bellhousing. It will be fine. [image][/image]

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: Quicksilver440] #1977209 12/27/15 04:20 PM 12/27/15 04:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,065 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,065 Niles , Ohio	Looking at it it looks like it was brokne and welded back on.Im 1/2 blind but that looks like weld bead near the case.Just open up the hole or leave the bolt out.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: Quicksilver440] #1977224 12/27/15 04:49 PM 12/27/15 04:49 PM
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Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Originally Posted By Quicksilver440 Anyone ever seen this? I just mocked up two different bell housings I have with an 833 o.d. 4 speed I have and the drivers side bottom bolt hole on the trans is off maybe 3/8" or so. See pics.... That don't look like any A833 I ever saw, for reference: They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: Quicksilver440] #1977239 12/27/15 05:06 PM 12/27/15 05:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,065 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,065 Niles , Ohio	Supercuda now that I look more I agree.Never saw one with that bolt/plug thing in the pic.I was just looking at the hole that looks like an ear was welded on.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: Jim_Lusk] #1977241 12/27/15 05:08 PM 12/27/15 05:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA. Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here
Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA.	Originally Posted By Jim_Lusk What bell housing are you using? What motor? It's a hydraulic style SB bell from a late 80's to early 90's d150. It has the 435 and 833 bolt patterns. And sized for the large OD retainer. I also checked the bell's bolt pattern to a BB '67 B-body bell by linin up the holes and it appears to match. So the hole on the trans itself seems to be what's off.

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: Quicksilver440] #1977243 12/27/15 05:10 PM 12/27/15 05:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA. Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here
Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA.	Originally Posted By Quicksilver440 Originally Posted By Jim_Lusk What bell housing are you using? What motor? It's a hydraulic style SB bell from a late 80's to early 90's d150. It has the 435 and 833 bolt patterns. And sized for the large OD retainer. I also checked the bell's bolt pattern to a BB '67 B-body bell by linin up the holes and it appears to match. So the hole on the trans itself seems to be what's off. I'll look again...but in person it looks like it is just cast that way.

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: therocks] #1977245 12/27/15 05:13 PM 12/27/15 05:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA. Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here
Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA.	Originally Posted By therocks Supercuda now that I look more I agree.Never saw one with that bolt/plug thing in the pic.I was just looking at the hole that looks like an ear was welded on.Rocky I'm new to 4-speeds...but I hope your wrong...haha. Someone gave it to me as a 833 OD. Let me go snap some more pic and maybe you guys can help me figure out what I have.

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: Quicksilver440] #1977250 12/27/15 05:18 PM 12/27/15 05:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,920 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,920 Grand Prairie,Texas	Are there any stamped or cast numbers on it?

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: stumpy] #1977253 12/27/15 05:32 PM 12/27/15 05:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA. Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here
Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA.	On the little machined pad is stamped: PP 833 5 31 83 And cast in: C-13546 B 04A2183

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: stumpy] #1977255 12/27/15 05:34 PM 12/27/15 05:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,047 M MoPar super stock
MoPar super stock M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,047	What bell do you have there ? the bottom of the bell should be flat to accept the lower inspection cover and where are the bell holes to attach it to the block ?

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: Quicksilver440] #1977258 12/27/15 05:40 PM 12/27/15 05:40 PM
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Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA.	Last edited by Quicksilver440; 12/27/15 05:43 PM.

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: MoPar] #1977263 12/27/15 05:42 PM 12/27/15 05:42 PM
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MoPar super stock M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,047	Please pull that trans off the bell and give us a pic of the bell to trans mating surface on the bell also the bell to block mating surface on the bell.

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: MoPar] #1977269 12/27/15 05:48 PM 12/27/15 05:48 PM
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Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA.	Last edited by Quicksilver440; 12/27/15 05:51 PM.

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: Quicksilver440] #1977271 12/27/15 05:54 PM 12/27/15 05:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA. Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here
Quicksilver440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA.

Re: 833 O.D. bolt pattern...one bolt slightly off? [Re: Quicksilver440] #1977273 12/27/15 05:56 PM 12/27/15 05:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,047 M MoPar super stock
MoPar super stock M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,047	skip the trans it is a plain jane o.d. 4 speed, get us pics of the bell.

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