Re: What front-end system system would you go with?
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If you trim the K-frame the pan will come right off with the drag link pulled. If you drill the outer tie rod locations, idler arm and pitman arm holes in the drag link you can insert tapered spacers in the holes. Now the entire steering linkage comes off with 4 nuts. The headers don't appear to be an issue. What steering issues, bump steer? caster? easily fixed. This would be my cheap solution. Doug I really like this idea as with other projects it would keep costs down. What do you think of this system Doug as I could get rid of the tortion bars, use my brakes, free up some room, and have some more adjust-ability. I would still have to deal with bump steer but from the way you sound its doable. http://www.gerstsuspensions.com/coil-over-conversion-kit.html
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Re: What front-end system system would you go with?
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Strange struts.. comes with everything except the rack... $1800-$2000 depending on what size you want... thats brakes and all
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Re: What front-end system system would you go with?
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If you trim the K-frame the pan will come right off with the drag link pulled. If you drill the outer tie rod locations, idler arm and pitman arm holes in the drag link you can insert tapered spacers in the holes. Now the entire steering linkage comes off with 4 nuts. The headers don't appear to be an issue. What steering issues, bump steer? caster? easily fixed. This would be my cheap solution. Doug I really like this idea as with other projects it would keep costs down. What do you think of this system Doug as I could get rid of the tortion bars, use my brakes, free up some room, and have some more adjust-ability. I would still have to deal with bump steer but from the way you sound its doable. Not familiar with them. Doesn't look bad from a glance. I can tell you the torsion bars really haven't been an issue for me. If they bother you and you have to buy shocks anyway then I could see this kit as an option. My car has offset control arm bushings, less than a $100 in modified strut rods, tie rod sleeves, and heims. It drives straight at 150mph and front suspension is square. Just took a little effort, but pretty straight forward. This shot shows how square the front stays. Doug http://www.gerstsuspensions.com/coil-over-conversion-kit.html
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Re: What front-end system system would you go with?
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If you trim the K-frame the pan will come right off with the drag link pulled. If you drill the outer tie rod locations, idler arm and pitman arm holes in the drag link you can insert tapered spacers in the holes. Now the entire steering linkage comes off with 4 nuts. The headers don't appear to be an issue. What steering issues, bump steer? caster? easily fixed. This would be my cheap solution. Doug I really like this idea as with other projects it would keep costs down. What do you think of this system Doug as I could get rid of the tortion bars, use my brakes, free up some room, and have some more adjust-ability. I would still have to deal with bump steer but from the way you sound its doable. Not familiar with them. Doesn't look bad from a glance. I can tell you the torsion bars really haven't been an issue for me. If they bother you and you have to buy shocks anyway then I could see this kit as an option. My car has offset control arm bushings, less than a $100 in modified strut rods, tie rod sleeves, and heims. It drives straight at 150mph and front suspension is square. Just took a little effort, but pretty straight forward. This shot shows how square the front stays. Doug http://www.gerstsuspensions.com/coil-over-conversion-kit.html That car looks and runs GREAT. Nice job on the front suspension. When I get a chance and an empty bay in my shop I will move this car over and check the front end out. Thanks for the sugestions
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Re: What front-end system system would you go with?
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I still have basically stock, with a trimmed K-Member in the Cuda. Tubular uppers and lowers. Torsion bars are still in place but headers are a pain as I run a 4 speed. Looking to replace the ProParts headers on there now and was getting ready to build new ones but space is an issue...... Since I run NSS with the Cuda, I must stay with stock. The exception is the control arms, as long as they are bolt in replacements. It does drive VERY well though and I have no complaints there. For me the advantage with the rack with struts would be having room to work on everything. Space is tight in my car. By the way, what headers are in this pic? -Dave
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Re: What front-end system system would you go with?
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I still have basically stock, with a trimmed K-Member in the Cuda. Tubular uppers and lowers. Torsion bars are still in place but headers are a pain as I run a 4 speed. Looking to replace the ProParts headers on there now and was getting ready to build new ones but space is an issue...... Since I run NSS with the Cuda, I must stay with stock. The exception is the control arms, as long as they are bolt in replacements. It does drive VERY well though and I have no complaints there. For me the advantage with the rack with struts would be having room to work on everything. Space is tight in my car. By the way, what headers are in this pic? -Dave Dave I texed the previous owner to make sure on the headers. They are TTI 2- 2 1/8 stepped header
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Re: What front-end system system would you go with?
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i'll try and post a pic of a k-frame I have with tubular lowers on it . I have been thinking about switching from my bone stock set up for years just haven't yet. Thank-you. I would appreciate that.
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Re: What front-end system system would you go with?
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I went with the Alterkation for my 67 Coronet. Was able to reuse my Wilwood brakes even though Wilwood competes for being one of the most slimeball companies on earth..............
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Re: What front-end system system would you go with?
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Room is nice and it will spoil you real quick. This car I'm looking for a few other reasons to. Most tracks rules dictate a diaper on 8 second cars, adding the mega block weight on an already heavier A body, and fast footbrake cars need ways to slow down the hit on bottom bulb racing so adjust-ability is needed. Us 60 years olds like to make things easier when we work on our cars by ourselves AND on the floor. LOL
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Re: What front-end system system would you go with?
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I went with the Alterkation for my 67 Coronet. Was able to reuse my Wilwood brakes even though Wilwood competes for being one of the most slimeball companies on earth.............. I was doing some reading on this set-up in the tech archives but it was an older post. Seems guys either love it or hate it but I'll try to dig up some newer info on this company. Having the Wilwood brakes already and being able to still use them would be a big help in keeping costs down.
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