Re: prepping a block for paint
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Depending on what I see IN the cooling passages I treat it to a muratic acid cleanout... What percentage (cut with water I am assuming) and how long do you let it cook?
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Re: prepping a block for paint
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11/05/15 12:44 PM
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1,1,1 Trichloroethylene is carcinogenic, 1,1,1 trichloroethane isn't. http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npg/npgd0404.html So you're wrong about that. It is listed as an ozone deplete, so I must ask if you have ever disconnected any emissions controls on your cars, because that causes air pollution which is much closer to home, the earth's surface. This whole subject is moot, however, as the Montreal Convention banned its production starting in 1996. R.
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Re: prepping a block for paint
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Well thats good to know. The chlorinated brake cleaners dissolve oil faster, but I try to avoid them usually because I always thought it was a carcinogen (confusing with trichlorethylene). I notice it does tend to leave a residue though, vs the non-chlorinated cleaners. It does do some funky things to latex gloves too.
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Re: prepping a block for paint
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11/05/15 08:31 PM
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Depending on what I see IN the cooling passages I treat it to a muratic acid cleanout... What percentage (cut with water I am assuming) and how long do you let it cook? After I re-read the original question I realized it's in a longblock form already... I usually use the muratic acid if it's a bare block and the hot tank did'nt get it like I wanted...I'm not sure I'd do it with an assembled longblock...I put the block on an engine stand,plug holes, and start pouring...Let it cook for a while{until it looks like it's not doing much more} and drain it....You would'nt believe what comes out of a "clean" block...Turn the engine to a different position and repeat... I'll have to check on what strength{there's different concentrations} I have in the gallon containers.. I just used it straight last time...We have to do this to our fishing boat every few years to keep the sea water passages open it really cooks the debris out...
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Re: prepping a block for paint
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Let's not forget what it does to your fingers! It sucks all the oils out of them and for me at least it burns like mad.
R. Makes my fingers tingle, and yes, sucks the oil out and gives you dead/pealing skin like when you're in the water too long!
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Re: prepping a block for paint
[Re: RapidRobert]
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11/05/15 10:37 PM
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I would get a gallon of wax and grease remover & with a clean paint brush and scrub brush go over it vigorously repeatedly with enough of it to where it is dripping a big mess under the eng. then finish up with several cans of brake kleen, drowning it & it'll get into the pores/nooks and crannies. I would not use any rags. They were referring to painting a flat surface but the paint guys at Sears once told me that you use solvent (of an appropriate type of course) to raise the oils/debris then you must wipe it off when wet otherwise if it dries the oil just goes back down to the surface. I dont think the oil will evap no matter how much it is diluted but instead it must be flushed off of the eng. I would get a gallon of wax and grease remover & with a clean paint brush and scrub brush go over it vigorously repeatedly with enough of it to where it is dripping a big mess under the eng. then finish up with several cans of brake kleen, drowning it & it'll get into the pores/nooks and crannies. I would not use any rags. They were referring to painting a flat surface but the paint guys at Sears once told me that you use solvent (of an appropriate type of course) to raise the oils/debris then you must wipe it off when wet otherwise if it dries the oil just goes back down to the surface. I dont think the oil will evap no matter how much it is diluted but instead it must be flushed off of the eng. Exactly! The solvent suspends the contaminants and they must be removed in suspension or they just lay back down when the solvent evaporates.
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Re: prepping a block for paint
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11/08/15 12:43 PM
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For a dead on perfect job should a person use the cleaners then sweat the rest of the oils out with a torch then reclean OR torch then solvents? (OCD)
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Re: prepping a block for paint
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11/09/15 08:31 PM
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I really enjoyed this post. I'll tell you what I use. I hit greasy stuff with mineral spirits to loosen up the stuff in the cracks and crevasses. Then use compressed air to evaporate the residual. Then I hit the parts with POR Marine Clean (spray bottle) and a clean brush and rinse. This stuff will strip the [censored] off a sow and is fine for you and the environment. Just wear rubber gloves and a mask cause it will strip your skin oil and burn a bit in higher concentration. even 10:1 it's amazing.
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