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Re: Boneyard Front Suspension [Re: Greg55_99] #193460 02/03/09 10:13 AM 02/03/09 10:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,404 Michigan MarkZ Worthy
MarkZ Worthy Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,404 Michigan	Quote: Quote: What about looking into the 98-2001? Crown vic. I know that in 2002 they used a different setup for the arms and all. Shocks are a different part due to the redesign. They also had a deeper offset rim as well. Still needed 16" rims though. From what I can see, some of them had a stamped steel lower A arm and others had a cast aluminum one. Maybe that's what the difference is. Problem is, it looks like the attachment points are still the same between them. Greg Reading through the post it was mentioned that previous to '02 the front suspension doesn't detach from the frame rails. 1987 Fifth Avenue - 512/518/D60

Re: Boneyard Front Suspension [Re: MarkZ] #193461 02/03/09 03:07 PM 02/03/09 03:07 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,400 canada J jneuf pro stock
jneuf pro stock J Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,400 canada	for interesting reading...

Re: Boneyard Front Suspension [Re: jneuf] #193462 02/03/09 06:03 PM 02/03/09 06:03 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 300 MA G Greg55_99 OP enthusiast
Greg55_99 OP enthusiast G Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 300 MA	From what I'm reading now, it looks like the Police Cars and the Marauder's got the alloy lower A arms. The others got stamped steel. Dragaddict sent me this pic from his Merc. Sure wish I could make this one fit.... Greg 4998409-Crown_Vic22.jpg (1341 downloads)

Re: Boneyard Front Suspension [Re: None2Slow] #193463 02/03/09 10:33 PM 02/03/09 10:33 PM
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patrick I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,123 Grand Haven, MI	Quote: What about looking into the 98-2001? Crown vic. I know that in 2002 they used a different setup for the arms and all. Shocks are a different part due to the redesign. They also had a deeper offset rim as well. Still needed 16" rims though. older ones have a weld-in front cross member, not a bolt in. they are 2-4" narrower, though, still a bit wide for an F/M/J and earlier B unless you go with late model mustang offset rims 1976 Spinnaker White Plymouth Duster, /6 A833OD 1986 Silver/Twilight Blue Chrysler 5th Ave HotRod SOLD!* 2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T 2017 Grand Cherokee Overland 2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude (holy crap, my daughter is driving)

Re: Boneyard Front Suspension [Re: patrick] #193464 02/03/09 10:59 PM 02/03/09 10:59 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 300 MA G Greg55_99 OP enthusiast
Greg55_99 OP enthusiast G Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 300 MA	Anybody know how wide the Dakota track is? Industrial Chassis in Phoenix makes a kit to use Dakota parts for a front end swap. Looks good. Might be a better fit than the Ford. About $700 for the crossmember. http://www.industrialchassisinc.com/ Greg 4999226-Dakota1.jpg.jpg (1702 downloads)

Re: Boneyard Front Suspension [Re: Greg55_99] #193465 02/03/09 11:07 PM 02/03/09 11:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 682 Land of Lost flatlinedude No pulse
flatlinedude No pulse Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 682 Land of Lost	Quote: Anybody know how wide the Dakota track is? Industrial Chassis in Phoenix makes a kit to use Dakota parts for a front end swap. Looks good. Might be a better fit than the Ford. About $700 for the crossmember. http://www.industrialchassisinc.com/ Greg Looks like the dakota will get you closer... https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post4983593 Carol: "Wow! He's really fast, isn't he?!" John: "Yeah... but he's stupid."

Re: Boneyard Front Suspension [Re: flatlinedude] #193466 02/03/09 11:58 PM 02/03/09 11:58 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 300 MA G Greg55_99 OP enthusiast
Greg55_99 OP enthusiast G Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 300 MA	Quote: Quote: Anybody know how wide the Dakota track is? Industrial Chassis in Phoenix makes a kit to use Dakota parts for a front end swap. Looks good. Might be a better fit than the Ford. About $700 for the crossmember. http://www.industrialchassisinc.com/ Greg Looks like the dakota will get you closer... https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post4983593 57" outside to outside for the Dakota? Close... Greg

Re: Boneyard Front Suspension [Re: Greg55_99] #193467 02/04/09 10:18 AM 02/04/09 10:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,131 Amarillo, Texas BBR master
BBR master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,131 Amarillo, Texas	I have been wondering if a guy could take a Vic front end, fit a narrower steering rack, and just section the crossmember to the correct width. I suppose the trick would be finding a rack with the same mounting bolt mounting positions relative to each end of the rack. My Ranger is screaming at me to try this. lol Drag Week 2011 - 77th place - DD Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A Drag Week 2014 - Kapooya RMRW 2018 RMRW 2020

Re: Boneyard Front Suspension [Re: BBR] #193468 02/04/09 09:29 PM 02/04/09 09:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,204 Fort Worth, TX Clair_Davis master
Clair_Davis master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,204 Fort Worth, TX	Sectioning the rack would sure seem like an option to me. There must be some options for different racks - Mustang? Mustang II? maybe even different OTRE's that could make up the difference. Clair 68 Sport Fury Vert (440/727) Getting a heart transplant... 69 Valiant 100 (340/833/EFI)

Re: Boneyard Front Suspension [Re: Clair_Davis] #193469 02/04/09 10:02 PM 02/04/09 10:02 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,314 Carstairs, Alberta, Canada dave571 master
dave571 master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,314 Carstairs, Alberta, Canada	The Crown Vic cross member is aluminum, so not something that would normally be narrowed at home. For me, the big plus of this piece, is that it is a bolt on, and won't pose any questions of weld strength and quality later on.

Re: Boneyard Front Suspension [Re: dave571] #193470 01/02/14 07:38 PM 01/02/14 07:38 PM
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Pool Fixer master Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,001 Coram, NY	I realize this thread is old but i saw this from the OP on the grassroots motorsports forum and wonder if it went anywhere... Quote: Well, I've actually come across another option that I like better. Something came up on my radar screen that REALLY got my attention. That is, the drop out IFS from a 93-04 Lexus SC300400. It's a REAL nice looking piece and it's got a hair over 34" between the frame rails. Just like the F-body. It can use HUGE Turbo Supra brakes and it bolts to the frame. F body front track width is listed as 60.0" 7982281-image.jpg (1307 downloads)

Re: Boneyard Front Suspension [Re: Pool Fixer] #193471 01/03/14 12:21 PM 01/03/14 12:21 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 300 MA G Greg55_99 OP enthusiast
Greg55_99 OP enthusiast G Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 300 MA	Good grief. It has been a long time since I posted this. At the time I was looking for an inexpensive method of getting rid of the torsion bar set up in my Volare. I did a lot of searching and finally found an old version crossmember from Industrial Chassis in Phoenix to mount the Dakota parts. I've done some cutting and I'm in the process of getting it installed. I honestly believe the Lexus IFS would be a good, pure junkyard alternative. Track width and distance between the frame rails is good for an A, B, or E body. But if you look at the assembly, you'd have to figure out a way to mount coilovers between the upper and lower A arms. Not a deal killer. Greg 7983105-Volare_Dak22.JPG (1122 downloads)

Re: Boneyard Front Suspension [Re: Greg55_99] #193472 01/04/14 01:19 PM 01/04/14 01:19 PM
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Soopernaut master S Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,682 Des Moines IA	Another option that might have been a good fit would be a Pacer IFS. I was going to put one in my Scout but the frame rails were slightly over 35 inches outside to outside so it would have required frame or crossmember modification. 1970 Dodge d100/eventually going on a 77 D100 frame

Re: Boneyard Front Suspension [Re: Greg55_99] #193473 01/05/14 02:42 PM 01/05/14 02:42 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,204 Fort Worth, TX Clair_Davis master
Clair_Davis master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,204 Fort Worth, TX	Life has kind of gotten in the way of my car hobby for a while, but it's great to be reminded how much great tech is right here on Moparts, and that I was even thinking about "back in the day"... Clair 68 Sport Fury Vert (440/727) Getting a heart transplant... 69 Valiant 100 (340/833/EFI)

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