Boneyard Front Suspension
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01/14/09 04:16 PM
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OK, so I hope I don't piss off the purists, but, I'm looking seriously into a couple of IFS packages straight from the boneyard. I've seen the Alterkation and XV setups and WOW, they are excellent! But, I'm an old hot rodder... so... Recently, on another board, a gent posted some pics of the front cradle from a 03-09 Ford Crown Victoria. He's putting it into an old pickup. I have a 77 F body Road Runner. The track width of the Crown Vic and F body are pretty close. The good part is, the Crown Vic front suspension completely unbolts from the car. Complete, hub to hub with power steering rack and a-arms. The Police car versions are the best. Since hot rod truck guys have been puting Volare front suspensions into old trucks, why not the Ford? I'm also playing with the idea of fitting a T-Bird independent rear suspension as well. More here: http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/716058-buildup-06-crown-vic-front-suspension-into-67-f100.htmlLike I said... If it can be done in a truck... why not a car? Greg
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Re: Boneyard Front Suspension
[Re: Greg55_99]
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01/14/09 04:39 PM
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they are similar track width as an F body? my friend's grand marquis feels a good 4-6" wider than my 5th ave...
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Re: Boneyard Front Suspension
[Re: patrick]
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01/14/09 10:14 PM
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they are similar track width as an F body? my friend's grand marquis feels a good 4-6" wider than my 5th ave...
Maybe he is refering to the framerails not the body ????
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Re: Boneyard Front Suspension
[Re: Greg55_99]
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01/15/09 02:02 AM
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OK, so I hope I don't piss off the purists, but...
Man! Am I pissed!!!
Just kidding. Hey if it works and it don't hurt anybody, why not Sounds like a fun project! I had a 56 D100(?) (1/2 ton pu) I wanted to put a modern front end under. That would have been perfect!
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Re: Boneyard Front Suspension
[Re: Greg55_99]
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01/15/09 04:21 AM
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Cool idea! Hopefully it will work for you. It sounds like you're going to need some positive offset wheels (offset to under the car) to make it work though. I guess it just depends on what wheels you were planning on using.
Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
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Re: Boneyard Front Suspension
[Re: patrick]
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01/15/09 07:56 PM
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sounds like it'd be an interesting setup for a late B ('71-up) or a C body. Wonder how hard it would be to mount in a unibody car? Since '73-up B's are the red headed step childs of Mopar and NO ONE will build a custom front end for them, this seems like an interesting alternative. Could this be the Mustang II front end of the new milenium?
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Re: Boneyard Front Suspension
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01/16/09 02:00 PM
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Cool idea! Hopefully it will work for you. It sounds like you're going to need some positive offset wheels (offset to under the car) to make it work though.
I guess it just depends on what wheels you were planning on using.
I've been told that Magnum and Charger wheels work perfectly and have the correct backspacing.
Greg
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Re: Boneyard Front Suspension
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01/17/09 06:25 PM
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Keep in mind for any car you install this in: The orientation this was mounted in the 'Vic is part of the caster 'equation', so that must be taken into account when mounting it into the new car. If you simply mount it 'flat' into the new car there might not be suitable range of caster adjustment. The 'Vic framerail angle with respect to the horizon should be compared to the angle on the receiver car. Does this mean we'll see an influx of 4.6 engines installed in Mopars???
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Re: Boneyard Front Suspension
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01/17/09 07:19 PM
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Hi, After reading your post I got sorta excited, I have a '62 Merc. Comet that I went out and measured but it looks like the Crown Vic. front end is to wide . So is there anything out there that is made that way only not as wide of track? Thanks , Kev
Anything for an early mustang should work under the comet, when my Dad had a '62 comet he used a disc brake setup from a 65-66 mustang, is yours a 6cyl or V8 car? his started came with a 221 so it was already 5 lug.
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Re: Boneyard Front Suspension
[Re: Clair_Davis]
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01/18/09 12:09 AM
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FWIW, I know of a guy who has a T-bird rear under a 66? Dart...
As luck would have it, he (David Belau) posted some links to some articles he posted on Cardomain just the other day: Article 1 Article 2
Great looking project he's got going there.
Clair
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