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NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker #1932637
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These New CAm FX shaft rockers are tool steel, are lighter on the valve tip than a aluminum rocker, less deflection , needle or bushed tips,don't have the short cycle life that aluminum has.,and all parts are made right here in America. All ratios are available. Rockers are complete with tool steel shafts,tips and ajusters...pm me for details...LIFETIME WARRANTY!!!
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Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: boatracer572] #1932646
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That looks very VERY nice!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: pittsburghracer] #1932682
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your timing isn't very good, I just bought rocker gear a couple days ago.

Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: boatracer572] #1932697
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Big Chief parts stirthepot


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Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: boatracer572] #1932698
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Seriously they look nice. What ratios are available??


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Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: Al_Alguire] #1932716
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was told anything up to 2.1, these are similar but not big chief rockers....

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Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: boatracer572] #1932718
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talked to chris this morning, he has sold a couple sets already and was warming up the CNC to make more...

Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: boatracer572] #1932736
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Right - if it looks good, the engineering must be perfect, since (as we all know) all bad designs have rough edges, tool marks, etc.


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Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: boatracer572] #1932813
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These are individual shaft rockers. The smaller axle only spans the width of the rocker. There is a bolt on both sides. 16 bolts hold the rockershafts(splayed valve) instead of 5 on an inline arrangement.
Totally different application. not an apples to apples comparison.


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Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: boatracer572] #1932853
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Why bother...

Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: polyspheric] #1932862
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Yeah, glad you get the point. grin


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Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: boatracer572] #1932907
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I ordered a set of those weak, ill engineered, not as good as aluminum babies today so I guess it was all just one big mistake given the theory of how weak they are.

Having seen plenty of the guy's work, on plenty other tappets, and complete rocker system, and having seen stiffer exhaust rockers pick up power. I think it'll all be ok.

I only use steel on the exhaust side, and I've seen it make more power for anyone interested, or has high cylinder pressure IE blown, or heavy nitrous.

i can attest that EVERYTHING the guy makes is as nice as it comes. Most especially his tappets.

Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: dthemi] #1932987
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Originally Posted By dthemi
I ordered a set of those weak, ill engineered, not as good as aluminum babies today so I guess it was all just one big mistake given the theory of how weak they are.

Having seen plenty of the guy's work, on plenty other tappets, and complete rocker system, and having seen stiffer exhaust rockers pick up power. I think it'll all be ok.

I only use steel on the exhaust side, and I've seen it make more power for anyone interested, or has high cylinder pressure IE blown, or heavy nitrous.

i can attest that EVERYTHING the guy makes is as nice as it comes. Most especially his tappets.

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Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: boatracer572] #1933158
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Literacy evidently not a requirement...


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Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: polyspheric] #1933200
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Originally Posted By polyspheric
Literacy evidently not a requirement...

Neither is snarkiness, yet there it is...

Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: boatracer572] #1933255
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I run the T & D stainless rockers on the intake and exhaust since its a forced induction app. Did the needle bearing tips and spring oiling option which has performed flawless so far.

Wonder if these are any cheaper than the T&D?

Then again the aluminum ones seem to stand up to boost with no problems with other guys.. Piece of mind costs big money it seems.

What does everyone run for lifters and pushrods?

Smith bros 1/2" to 7/16" taper here and Isky EndurX EZ Roll 3372-EZX I think is the PN.


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Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: Efidart] #1933261
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Originally Posted By Efidart
I run the T & D stainless rockers on the intake and exhaust since its a forced induction app. Did the needle bearing tips and spring oiling option which has performed flawless so far.

Wonder if these are any cheaper than the T&D?

Then again the aluminum ones seem to stand up to boost with no problems with other guys.. Piece of mind costs big money it seems.

What does everyone run for lifters and pushrods?

Smith bros 1/2" to 7/16" taper here and Isky EndurX EZ Roll 3372-EZX I think is the PN.



Hey, Matt. I will be running the Jesel Sportsman .937 lifters, pushrod oiling.

Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: boatracer572] #1933639
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Splayed low seat jesel tool steel .905 tie bars in the 636, and cam fx .905's in the 660. 1/2" intake, and 5/8" exhaust pushrods.

I had to choose between tappet dia, and lifter bore spacing. I went with highest quality small tappet, with the widest spacing I can do with the blocks I have to work with. My push rod spacing at the tappets is 2.3. That's about as straight as I can get them. I'd do .937, 1", or 1.062' on a 60 mm core if I were planning to zing a smaller CI combo.

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Why does the stiffer rocker on the exhaust side make such a difference?

Re: NEW Predator tool steel shaft rocker [Re: Efidart] #1933659
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Originally Posted By Efidart
I run the T & D stainless rockers on the intake and exhaust since its a forced induction app. Did the needle bearing tips and spring oiling option which has performed flawless so far.

Wonder if these are any cheaper than the T&D?

Then again the aluminum ones seem to stand up to boost with no problems with other guys.. Piece of mind costs big money it seems.

What does everyone run for lifters and pushrods?

Smith bros 1/2" to 7/16" taper here and Isky EndurX EZ Roll 3372-EZX I think is the PN.


1.062" cam FX keyway lifters- 9/16 .188 wall double taper pushrods


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