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Re: It's been 2 years since aftermarket Mopar blocks available [Re: camastomcat] #1954986
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That's an easy check, I did mine with scrap aluminum, Schrader valve, and air pressure guage. Did waist a new felpro head gaskit doing it but it's easy to check.


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Re: It's been 2 years since aftermarket Mopar blocks available [Re: HotRodDave] #1955025
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Originally Posted By HotRodDave
BTW the advantage of the bigger BS block is you can run a bigger valve with more room from the bore, a hemi solves this problem.

Seems someone would come up with a race style Hemi head, ditch the "real hemi" chamber for a shallower one like the genIII with a couple quench pads so you don't need 500 pound pistons to get compression. Then you can beat em with a 4.8 BS while they are all trying to run a "wedge" that ain't a real wedge either. Look at the apache head, giant valve with big flow that still fits on a 3.91 bore for inspiration, no massive dome required. Scale it up and make it fit the 605" and let it eat. Too many mopar guys in the top classes trying to prove they can do it with a wedge.


Agree, a scaled up genIII hemi style head for BB would be amazing.


Originally Posted By HotRodDave
Does any one realize there would be NO comparisons of the Hemi and wedge if the hemi had 440" under it from the factory? That is the only real reason there was ever a comparison, the extra cubes are what gave it more TQ not the stupid wedge heads or magic 6 pack.


Actually the "stupid wedge heads" had something to do with the comparison, at least in stock bodied muscle cars on the street (which is the only place this comparison existed - racers knew better).

The smaller port volumes of wedge heads made much better low speed torque, which allowed the mild cammed 440's to better cope with the heavy weight/low stall speed/street gear ratios that most muscle cars had. 14 cubic inches certainly helped, but that alone wasn't what made the two competitive.

It was the fact that the stock street hemi was mismatched and out of its element in mild low speed street driving, and the 440 wedge was nearly perfect for it.

Re: It's been 2 years since aftermarket Mopar blocks available [Re: camastomcat] #1955030
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We ordered the Indy blocks with the options we want and finish machine them the way we want is what I tell people. I have never seen one with a internal leak, but anything is possible with a casting. I am pretty sure Indy pressure tests there blocks. I have never needed to do that so far.

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Re: It's been 2 years since aftermarket Mopar blocks available [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1955120
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[quote=PETE@BESTMACHINE]We have bought a lot of Indy blocks and have no problems using them for our engine builds. We check the line hone, deck, bore, hone, lifter bush just like any block and have only returned two that were replaced with no problem in 10 years. There are no perfect blocks and ready to assemble out of the box that we have ever seen. They are not marginal as stated by camastomcat in our opinion and we have made good power with them. If you really want to build a engine there is no reason not to use one. The weight of the iron block makes it not worth using in a fast drag car (Top Sportsman, Top Dragster ) We also have seen the older mega blocks fail in short time with good power and have never had a cylinder split in a Indy Block. [/quote
Pete, what are your thoughts of power output on a good sonic-ed Mega-block vs an Indy at 4.500" bore. A few people have swapped out their Iron block an haven't gone any quicker despite the weight savings? I'd love to lose the weight.
Doug

Re: It's been 2 years since aftermarket Mopar blocks available [Re: dvw] #1955558
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pete - can you ballpark an "average" price to correct any machining issues and get a iron indy block ready to assemble ?

I am trying to decide between Indy and a MP Block.

Re: It's been 2 years since aftermarket Mopar blocks available [Re: pittsburghracer] #1955588
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
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Just picked up another block tonight so I didn't have to go with a patched up stock block on my 512 indy headed build


nice grab!. What brand block is it?? And the specs??
. .030 over mega block advertised on moparts by one of our members. He also sold a 4.500 World block and is awaiting payment. I sat on the Fence for awhile and started figuring out what I would have in doing a stock block strong enough to run low 9's or high 8's and desided to go this route. My 572 keith Black is going in my small tire heads up car and the 512 is going in this car I traded for my Daytona to another moparts member


I want a pic of that car lined up next to my Demon and launching. Very nice trade IMO.

Re: It's been 2 years since aftermarket Mopar blocks available [Re: dvw] #1956040
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Doug, I do not think you are going to loose any power with the Indy block over a old mega block. We had a chance to do that when a mega block split a cylinder on the dyno. We replaced the block with a Indy one and used our custom ring pack and it made a little more power. That was the only change and we had just gone though it and sonic tested it also.

Re: It's been 2 years since aftermarket Mopar blocks available [Re: SSAAHemiFan] #1956042
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SSAAHemiFan, You have a Indy iron block? Best to call the shop and go over that, 248-987-6038. Thanks

Re: It's been 2 years since aftermarket Mopar blocks available [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1956051
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Have some good news, the Iron Mopar Wedge blocks will be available real soon, they have machined some and are really trying to make sure they are the best that has ever been offered by Mopar. The shop that is machining them is real close to us and two guys from there came over to check some concerns we had about a new Hemi block we have from them. They invited us to come over and check out there shop, very nice people. The lead machinist was one of them and was very cool, talked about the ProStock blocks and he was checking out mine also.

Re: It's been 2 years since aftermarket Mopar blocks available [Re: camastomcat] #1956184
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Pete,that's great news keep us posted on the release date.

Re: It's been 2 years since aftermarket Mopar blocks available [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1976598
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Originally Posted By PETE@BESTMACHINE
Have some good news, the Iron Mopar Wedge blocks will be available real soon,...


I noticed in another thread that the G2 hemi blocks are already available with a P#.

Is there any new info on the wedges? Any info about P#'s to watch out for? Options? Etc...

Re: It's been 2 years since aftermarket Mopar blocks available [Re: camdog440] #1994397
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Any new news on the MP blocks availability?

Part numbers?

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