Well I didn't bring this thread back up to create a pissing match or to complain. Just to let people know what the current wait time is. For me it's no big deal. I moved last year and knew I'd be down for two years because of it so I started ordering parts so I was ready to go when the time came. I've been a Mopar guy forever and I've never built a hemi so my reward to myself for all the work involved in moving my family to a better place was a Hemi waiting for me at the end.

Mopars are interesting right now. On one hand it's a heck of a lot easier and cheaper to make power right now than it was 20 years ago. I'm talking about 9-10 second cars. I put a set of performers on a worn out 440 short block with a mechanical cam and went 10's first time out. No more screwing with crack prone 906's. On the other hand to go really fast Mopar has been left behind.

For me it's harder to keep racing all mopar because the bodies have gotten so expensive. Everyone want a small fortune for a pile of rust Dart or Coronet. It's forced me to use a Buick body with a Mopar engine because I can buy a 68-72 Skylark/GS for 1/4 of the cost of a Mopar body and all the suspension parts are day away at Summit since it's the same chassis as a Chevelle.

I think the Arrow is begging for a small block bowtie...lol

Now you did it. LOL. If and only if and it will NEVER happen because I don't like them BUT if I had a dragster it would positively have a big block chevy in it.

Only on a mopar site can we be called "too cheap" and "wastefull" of our money. Guys call us cheap for whining about $5000 for a useable block and at the same time people are shocked we buy them for that much.

BTW the advantage of the bigger BS block is you can run a bigger valve with more room from the bore, a hemi solves this problem.

Seems someone would come up with a race style Hemi head, ditch the "real hemi" chamber for a shallower one like the genIII with a couple quench pads so you don't need 500 pound pistons to get compression. Then you can beat em with a 4.8 BS while they are all trying to run a "wedge" that ain't a real wedge either. Look at the apache head, giant valve with big flow that still fits on a 3.91 bore for inspiration, no massive dome required. Scale it up and make it fit the 605" and let it eat. Too many mopar guys in the top classes trying to prove they can do it with a wedge. Does any one realize there would be NO comparisons of the Hemi and wedge if the hemi had 440" under it from the factory? That is the only real reason there was ever a comparison, the extra cubes are what gave it more TQ not the stupid wedge heads or magic 6 pack.

The problem is that KB can get away with it. That's why it happens. Ken isn't going to use HIS money to front blocks that may or may not sell in a timely fashion, so he is going to WAIT until he has the customers $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. And the customer is losing $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ because he no longer has the USE of HIS money because some other piss poor business man is holding it.

Why Chrysler guys put up with this is beyond my ability to understand. nI can tell you, with out doubt, if I was going racing again, it would be with a 5.0 bore spacing (maybe bigger) aftermarket BB engine (it's not really a chevy). I would never again be bothered by the crap dealings I have personally had with chrysler. Let alone they way chrysler has treated Roy and Allen Johnson, for decades. Why the Johunsons take it I'll never know.

It's just stupid really.

The problem is that KB can get away with it. That's why it happens. Ken isn't going to use HIS money to front blocks that may or may not sell in a timely fashion, so he is going to WAIT until he has the customers $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. And the customer is losing $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ because he no longer has the USE of HIS money because some other piss poor business man is holding it.

Why Chrysler guys put up with this is beyond my ability to understand. nI can tell you, with out doubt, if I was going racing again, it would be with a 5.0 bore spacing (maybe bigger) aftermarket BB engine (it's not really a chevy). I would never again be bothered by the crap dealings I have personally had with chrysler. Let alone they way chrysler has treated Roy and Allen Johnson, for decades. Why the Johunsons take it I'll never know.

It's just stupid really.

Just picked up another block tonight so I didn't have to go with a patched up stock block on my 512 indy headed build

nice grab!. What brand block is it?? And the specs??

Just to give a fact....my buddy paid upfront and waited 1.5 years for his aluminum 10.7 deck Chevy block....
It's not just KB or because its a MOPAR. The problem is once you order something like that you'll want this option and that option and you'll be waiting too. Not to many blocks in stock with all the right stuff your looking for so you go on the waiting list.


Uh just curious, 1. If it's just a standard 10.720 deck hieght RB, with a raised cam option or not, it's nothing special. Push rod oiling, nothing special, clearance for long stroke, nothing special. It shouldn't take over 3 months to complete especially if they are asking you for 1/2 or all of the money. People who have ordered them here, know. People who have tried to order them, know. People who are waiting right now, know. Anyone ordering a GM style block like this, know.

We have bought a lot of Indy blocks and have no problems using them for our engine builds. We check the line hone, deck, bore, hone, lifter bush just like any block and have only returned two that were replaced with no problem in 10 years. There are no perfect blocks and ready to assemble out of the box that we have ever seen. They are not marginal as stated by camastomcat in our opinion and we have made good power with them. If you really want to build a engine there is no reason not to use one. The weight of the iron block makes it not worth using in a fast drag car (Top Sportsman, Top Dragster ) We also have seen the older mega blocks fail in short time with good power and have never had a cylinder split in a Indy Block.