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Re: Diesal users?? [Re: hemi-itis] #1905775
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I Have heard of this, BUT only for clogged and or sluggish injectors! The old timers use to ad a quart to a tank (BIG RIG) to clean them, just a quart! It would kill the mosquitoes too!

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Re: Diesal users?? [Re: hemi-itis] #1905779
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Originally Posted By hemi-itis
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This certain guy who lives in pArAdIsE was told that the reason for the usage of the ATF add-in is jsta' that - the friction modifiers ! .... it will "clean" the pump and the injector-nozzles like nothing out-there! ...

I run a 2010 Hino and would be hesitant to add ATF with theses new Catalytic converters. Luckily, my truck is right before they changed to the PP fluid!!


I discovered many years ago that the guy in paradise only thinks he knows what he was TOLD.

No first hand experience in anything that I can tell. lol


This guy we speak of just bought a diesel pusher motorhome and has to drive it back from Arizona.


Good for him, hope he enjoys it. thumbs I think he should hold off pouring anything into his fuel tank other than diesel fuel until he gets it home safely. Where's he gonna park it? at the library?

Re: Diesal users?? [Re: hemi-itis] #1905787
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I use it in the oil just before I change oil, it's like a 5 weight, thinner, to clean the black soot out of the engine. We used to pour aft down the carb to knock the carbon off the heads and pistons, at 2000 rpm. I was told to put in the fuel to clean injectors, gas or diesel. I'll put some aft in a little diesel to see if it turns red. I have been checked by the DOT in my pickup, the cop said it would pick up any dye in the fuel not additives, they're just making sure you're paying the taxes, $10,000 fine. Put some dirty greasy-grime on your hands then put some aft on, it will clean off that grime quickly. I know it's less lubricating, but to clean anything it has to cut through what you're cleaning. Soap isn't used to clean your hands, it's used to make the water molecules smaller than the dirt to float off your hands, so I guess this is what the aft does.
In my opinion, have to add that so no liability.

Re: Diesal users?? [Re: 6PakBee] #1905790
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Originally Posted By 6PakBee
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Well maybe diesel is diesel is diesel but..... The two trips I've made east with my 2010 Cummins, I started in ND at about 17 mpg. From there the mileage steadily increased. By the time I hit Ohio I was up to about 21 mpg. On the return trip by the time I got back to ND I was back to 17 mpg again. Both times. All numbers from the onboard display.

shruggy


You must of got a hold of some of our premium diesel! Kidding, I have no idea, did the weather get cooler to help with mileage or the load get lighter?


Neither of the above. I honestly have no idea. Looking for a reason to take another trip east to see if history repeats.


The normal direction of the wind was in your flavor going and against you coming back. No idea about that particular day but the wind is usually blowing that direction as well as the elevation.

As for the original post, I had a 92 cummins and ran it mostly on used oil from the honda dealer I worked at and it included engine oil, trans fluid, honda transfer case oil, gear oil... I poured it through an industrial coffee filter and ran it roughly 50-50 with diesel and never had any ill effects, I did the same with used resturant oil ocasionally with no issues.


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Re: Diesal users?? [Re: HotRodDave] #1905794
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Originally Posted By HotRodDave
Originally Posted By 6PakBee
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Originally Posted By 6PakBee
Well maybe diesel is diesel is diesel but..... The two trips I've made east with my 2010 Cummins, I started in ND at about 17 mpg. From there the mileage steadily increased. By the time I hit Ohio I was up to about 21 mpg. On the return trip by the time I got back to ND I was back to 17 mpg again. Both times. All numbers from the onboard display.

shruggy


You must of got a hold of some of our premium diesel! Kidding, I have no idea, did the weather get cooler to help with mileage or the load get lighter?


Neither of the above. I honestly have no idea. Looking for a reason to take another trip east to see if history repeats.


The normal direction of the wind was in your flavor going and against you coming back. No idea about that particular day but the wind is usually blowing that direction as well as the elevation.

As for the original post, I had a 92 cummins and ran it mostly on used oil from the honda dealer I worked at and it included engine oil, trans fluid, honda transfer case oil, gear oil... I poured it through an industrial coffee filter and ran it roughly 50-50 with diesel and never had any ill effects, I did the same with used resturant oil ocasionally with no issues.

You're killing the purists.

Re: Diesal users?? [Re: cudaman1969] #1905866
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How many folks have dumped gasoline into the diesel to help keep it flowing in super cold weather? I have back in the mid eighties when there was less diesel additives available. We also have #1 oil which was always used to thin the #2 during cold weather back in the day.

But one time my first 1985 DT 466 was shutdown on the road with white wax floating in the fuel tank big time. We dumped gasoline into the tank and it helped get the truck back to the warm garage. BTW that old DT was one of the motors that could burn anything just about I bet. I bet it could run on straight ATF after it was warmed up. Those mechanical diesels were the most reliable diesels ever made, IMO.

10X more reliable than the junk hi pressure oil diesels we have now. Hi pressure oil pumps suck bad in a diesel.

BTW today's diesel fuel seem to have a much lower cloud point, much more so than the old hi sulfur diesel which is a good thing about the new ULSD.

Re: Diesal users?? [Re: 6PakBee] #1905867
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Originally Posted By 6PakBee
Well maybe diesel is diesel is diesel but..... The two trips I've made east with my 2010 Cummins, I started in ND at about 17 mpg. From there the mileage steadily increased. By the time I hit Ohio I was up to about 21 mpg. On the return trip by the time I got back to ND I was back to 17 mpg again. Both times. All numbers from the onboard display.

shruggy


North Dakota is 1400 feet higher, on average, than Ohio, that is your difference I am sure.


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Re: Diesal users?? [Re: Supercuda] #1905876
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Originally Posted By Supercuda
Originally Posted By 6PakBee
Well maybe diesel is diesel is diesel but..... The two trips I've made east with my 2010 Cummins, I started in ND at about 17 mpg. From there the mileage steadily increased. By the time I hit Ohio I was up to about 21 mpg. On the return trip by the time I got back to ND I was back to 17 mpg again. Both times. All numbers from the onboard display.

shruggy


North Dakota is 1400 feet higher, on average, than Ohio, that is your difference I am sure.


Good point.
I carry a old altimeter from a old weather station I have for racing in our RV. It helps us keep track of that, not that is matters that much. But now I know what part of the country is what and helps me tune my car better/closer before I even leave Cincinnati. I don't drive around out there with the same tuneup that I use in Cincinnati.

And yea I think all the time when I drive my car out of town at like 5000-6000 feet like in Vegas, Bonneville, and other places how much less HP my car has compared to at home. I think man these guys have no idea how much air they are missing.

This picture was from last month somewhere in Utah, Az or Colorado, 6000'. It's fun the see the thing make a complete revolution when we go over the Rockies at 10K feet. I've seen it at 14K feet on top of Pikes Peak.

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Re: Diesal users?? [Re: hemi-itis] #1905922
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Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Friend of mine living in PariDiSE is tryin to tell me to use ATF in the fuel confusedAnyone ever hear od such a practice??


Maybe he should ask the Yellowbullet membership...


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Re: Diesal users?? [Re: GY3] #1905924
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Originally Posted By GY3
Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Friend of mine living in PariDiSE is tryin to tell me to use ATF in the fuel confusedAnyone ever hear od such a practice??


Maybe he should ask the Yellowbullet membership...


Did he get booted from over there too?

I saw a long post pertaining to him like 6-9 months ago over there, what happened?

Re: Diesal users?? [Re: Challenger 1] #1906120
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Originally Posted By Challenger 1
Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Originally Posted By Challenger 1
Originally Posted By hemi-itis
This certain guy who lives in pArAdIsE was told that the reason for the usage of the ATF add-in is jsta' that - the friction modifiers ! .... it will "clean" the pump and the injector-nozzles like nothing out-there! ...

I run a 2010 Hino and would be hesitant to add ATF with theses new Catalytic converters. Luckily, my truck is right before they changed to the PP fluid!!


I discovered many years ago that the guy in paradise only thinks he knows what he was TOLD.

No first hand experience in anything that I can tell. lol


This guy we speak of just bought a diesel pusher motorhome and has to drive it back from Arizona.


Good for him, hope he enjoys it. thumbs I think he should hold off pouring anything into his fuel tank other than diesel fuel until he gets it home safely. Where's he gonna park it? at the library?


Actually,there's plent of parking in ParIDiSE. I received an e/mail directed in your direction.Not sure to post it or not work


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Re: Diesal users?? [Re: hemi-itis] #1906132
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It's an old time trick that does a pretty good job of cleaning pumps and injectors as ATF is pretty high in detergent properties. It's not good to run it all the time as it will leave an ash deposit behind on the injector nozzles. I think on a new diesel with DPF and SCR it would be a really bad idea to run it at all for the same reason, ash.

On a non emissions engine I don't think 2 stroke oil will cause any harm as it's designed not to leave ash behind. With the exception of a 5.9 Cummins with a VP44 pump, I don't know if there is any benefit to it other than to feel better.

VP44 pumps are famous for "dead pedal" and I have seen first hand one cured after a quart of 2 cycle was added to a full tank of fuel. It took less than 3 miles and it's never done it since. It takes about a cupful every fill to maintain it unless it's bio diesel and then it doesn't need it.

Kevin

Re: Diesal users?? [Re: hemi-itis] #1906173
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Sure post it for our entertainment. But I sure am glad the dude can't post here anymore, it was like finger nails on a chock board when he did post.

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I pesonally enjoyed his wit & sense of humor and we speak on somewhat a regular basis,so don't shoot the messenger smoke

NO NEED to be grumpy Chuckles1 jsta' because you live in SINcaNastee and not pArAdIsE !


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Originally Posted By hemi-itis
I pesonally enjoyed his wit & sense of humor and we speak on somewhat a regular basis,so don't shoot the messenger smoke

NO NEED to be grumpy Chuckles1 jsta' because you live in SINcaNastee and not pArAdIsE !


Hey thanks no big deal. What ever that means? Seemed like it rained alot this year in Fla?

Re: Diesal users?? [Re: Challenger 1] #1906377
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Originally Posted By Challenger 1
Sure post it for our entertainment. But I sure am glad the dude can't post here anymore, it was like finger nails on a chock board when he did post.


X10000!


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9.92 @ 135mph with a 350 shot of nitrous and 93 octane pump. 1.43 60 ft. 3,750 lbs.

Re: Diesal users?? [Re: Twostick] #1906450
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Originally Posted By Twostick
It's an old time trick that does a pretty good job of cleaning pumps and injectors as ATF is pretty high in detergent properties. It's not good to run it all the time as it will leave an ash deposit behind on the injector nozzles. I think on a new diesel with DPF and SCR it would be a really bad idea to run it at all for the same reason, ash.


This is what I'd suggest. I wouldn't try it on anything designed with any type of catalyst. I assume a 2010 medium duty rig has a lean nox trap if it doesn't have SCR. Definitely don't put it in anything that has a DPF.


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