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Re: BB versus SB [Re: Triple Threat] #189052
01/10/09 05:54 PM
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What,,,, we are! Were suppose to help each other see the light,,,right?

Re: BB versus SB [Re: dthemi] #189053
01/10/09 06:02 PM
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That cuda have a passenger seat? I'm ready when you are ..... show me the ways of the force

On a side note Darren, Supposedly the first test and tune of the year at Pacific Raceways will be the 7th and 8th of February. They haven't posted the schedule, but that is the rumor floating around.


-Dustin
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68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
Re: BB versus SB [Re: Triple Threat] #189054
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Yeah, it's got a seat.

Isn't it still raining in Feb? If they have one I'll go!

Re: BB versus SB [Re: dthemi] #189055
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It always rains, just gotta hope its dry on race day. Keep an eye on the forecast when it gets closer and hope for the best.


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Re: BB versus SB [Re: Triple Threat] #189056
01/10/09 06:45 PM
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Will do man, I love it here, makes me wish I'd moved years ago, and i can't wait to meet all you guys.

Re: BB versus SB [Re: Triple Threat] #189057
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I will say, even if the car was race only, with limited street use such as your cars, I would still run a small block just so when I do beat up on ya, It would feel that much better!!!!!




If it'll run EIGHT SECONDS with a small block, I'm sure SKR8PN would ! But how likely is that?

Small blocks are easier to use in a milder-performance build. They're cheaper, plentiful, and leave more room under the hood. If that's what you are after, there is nothing wrong with them...but I doubt that the SS/A or Pro Stock guys will be trying to compete using one.

All things equal, there is really no argument that more cubic inches = more HP and torque.

However, there are certain applications where small-displacement engines are more desirable:


Re: BB versus SB [Re: 300by500] #189058
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All things equal, there is really no argument that more cubic inches = more HP and torque.

However, there are certain applications where small-displacement engines are more desirable:











Re: BB versus SB #189059
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12.43??? There was a guy with a Dodge pickup with ladder rack, tool boxes and ladder on the rack at the Mopar Nats a couple years ago that was in the 11's...




Had nitrous bottles in the tool box, that truck was cool!

Re: BB versus SB [Re: 300by500] #189060
01/12/09 10:03 AM
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I will say, even if the car was race only, with limited street use such as your cars, I would still run a small block just so when I do beat up on ya, It would feel that much better!!!!!




If it'll run EIGHT SECONDS with a small block, I'm sure SKR8PN would ! But how likely is that?

Small blocks are easier to use in a milder-performance build. They're cheaper, plentiful, and leave more room under the hood. If that's what you are after, there is nothing wrong with them...but I doubt that the SS/A or Pro Stock guys will be trying to compete using one.

All things equal, there is really no argument that more cubic inches = more HP and torque.

However, there are certain applications where small-displacement engines are more desirable:








ROTFLMAO!!!
Brion I owe you a for that one!!


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Re: BB versus SB [Re: Dago Red] #189061
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Besides as a very "friendly" lady once told me as a young man, "It's not the size of the wand, but the magic you make with it."






"it is not the size of the ship, but how you park it in the harbor"


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Re: BB versus SB [Re: SKR8PN] #189062
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You can't make a 572ci small block

Re: BB versus SB [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #189063
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Here you go Craig.

Re: BB versus SB [Re: Triple Threat] #189064
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I'll watch you T&T your SB my BB will wait for warmer track temps.

Re: BB versus SB [Re: JD Dart] #189065
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ive always had a small block, i cant tune worth a darn, nor have the time to really see what this motor can do, stroked smallblock with eddy heads, oh btw read the sig


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Re: BB versus SB [Re: JD Dart] #189066
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It's kinda like, which tool is best for the job. I mean, if you're trying to install something a little "delicate" and the right tool for the job is a dead blow hammer, somewhat on the small side, but you have a 16 lb sledge, which one do you use?
That's why my challenger has a small block and my 4x4 pickup has a big block. Course everyone's entitled to their opinion. Next topic should be: Import cars... Do the fart cans really make you run 10 seconds flat?

Re: BB versus SB [Re: Triple Threat] #189067
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You silly old men trying to compensate for something? with names like "bigdad" seems like you have the need to try and represent something you might have lost since your youth ....

The car even has a back seat that gets used. And even with 5 people, the car never scraped header or anything else. Gotta love those little blocks.


and working wipers! This was on the way home from the race track after our points race got rained out.


I will say, even if the car was race only, with limited street use such as your cars, I would still run a small block just so when I do beat up on ya, It would feel that much better!!!!!




Silly wabbits Small blocks are for small frys.

Nice of Mom to give you kids a ride to school in that nasty weather.


Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike
Re: BB versus SB [Re: mike s] #189068
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Would be interesting to see a Procharged BB Vs SB shootout.

Small Block R-3 block .060 over 340 bore size + 4.1 inch crank (433 CID) with Indy W-2 heads & single plane intake.

Big Block .030 over 383 + 3.75 crank with 440 Source Heads & single plane intake (432 CID).


Re: BB versus SB [Re: SKR8PN] #189069
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There is NO replacement for DISPLACEMENT.

The bigger the better = the FASTER every time.




Depends on weight breaks, if any, and a few other things. In our class(Outlaw 10.5) we race a Procharged SB. There are cars in our class with N/A 920 CI motors and others with 5 stages and almost 900 cubes. We have the ET record. A twin turbo BB has the speed record.

Re: BB versus SB [Re: BobR] #189070
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wouldn't it be boring if everyone ran 500 + " BB's? Hope this doesn't turn into the gay Harley guys who look down on sportster's / import bikes ect..

Re: BB versus SB [Re: Bakaruda432] #189071
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Would be interesting to see a Procharged BB Vs SB shootout.

Small Block R-3 block .060 over 340 bore size + 4.1 inch crank (433 CID) with Indy W-2 heads & single plane intake.

Big Block .030 over 383 + 3.75 crank with 440 Source Heads & single plane intake (432 CID).






Lets break this down: You want to compare an after market R3 block to a stock 383.

Small block after market stroker crank to a stock stroke 383.

W-2 heads one of the better after market heads when ported right. To an entry level lowest priced,lowest flowing 440source head.


dollar for dollar.

cubic inch wins.
small blocks are nice but to race with the big dogs figure on spending about 1/3 to 1/2 more money.


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