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Re: BB versus SB #189032
01/10/09 10:21 AM
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12.43??? There was a guy with a Dodge pickup with ladder rack, tool boxes and ladder on the rack at the Mopar Nats a couple years ago that was in the 11's...

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Re: BB versus SB [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #189033
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I'll bite....

Small block has no easily usable aftermarket aluminum block, yet costs only a little less to build than a hemi...Hence, I built a hemi.

Not to mention, the hemi adds value to the car. And talk about high winding...Shift a hemi up at 8400rpm, and tell me about your small block again.

http://s427.photobucket.com/albums/pp357...emiMov00451.flv

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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: BB versus SB [Re: Dragula] #189034
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My being a poorboy and not being able to buy the high dollar cranks,blocks and such I found myself blowing the bottom ends out of many big blocks. Small blocks seem to turn up pretty good and stay together. Maybe not make as much power but I can play another day .


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Re: BB versus SB #189035
01/10/09 11:39 AM
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12.43??? There was a guy with a Dodge pickup with ladder rack, tool boxes and ladder on the rack at the Mopar Nats a couple years ago that was in the 11's...



HMMMMM,My mini motorhome has a 360 with a mild cam,headers,etc.
Maybe I should race it in our street class.I wouldn't have to worry about spinning the tires off the line..............

Re: BB versus SB [Re: bigdad] #189036
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There is no substitute for cubic inches..This rule of thumb works on anything you are doing..



Unless your working on your girlfriend!





Ahhh, no .. they prefer the big cubes !





my wife loves BIG CUBIC INCHES...499 to be exact..

aint no small block in her life...



Re: BB versus SB [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #189037
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Kind of best of both worlds, stroker small block...big but small


Re: BB versus SB [Re: runya] #189038
01/10/09 01:26 PM
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I have a street car that sees the track every here and there. ive always liked the rpms of a small block. I also do more than just go straight. I like to corner well as well.

But for balls to the wall all out race, big block is king.

But still, its fun to beat a big block with a small block.

Re: BB versus SB [Re: aarcuda] #189039
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Just looked up on Racing Junk all the mopar engines for sale, and a mild hemi IS cheaper than a after market blocked small block. It just seems, dollar for dollar, anything over 600hp, and the price difference is neglegable. And the BB wedge engines are cheaper than both.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: BB versus SB [Re: Dragula] #189040
01/10/09 02:10 PM
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You guys sure got some jokes, I'd willingly line up next to any of you in a bracket race. Then we shall see who laughs at the 12 second car then.


-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
Re: BB versus SB [Re: Triple Threat] #189041
01/10/09 02:42 PM
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You guys sure got some jokes, I'd willingly line up next to any of you in a bracket race. Then we shall see who laughs at the 12 second car then.



Ow,everyone's just having fun.
My wife was second in points her first year of racing with a 12 second small block.
Now it is stroked to 421 inches and makes more tourqe than my 440.Maybe the best answer is a small block that thinks it is a big block!

Re: BB versus SB [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #189042
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Hi everybody


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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: BB versus SB [Re: B3422W5] #189043
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Hi everybody




Its about time I got some back up from you small block folk ....


-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
Re: BB versus SB [Re: B3422W5] #189044
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Don,we don't don't need trouble from you!

Re: BB versus SB [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #189045
01/10/09 03:36 PM
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I started racing a dirt car that the rules specified 368 cubes or less, ssssooooo small block it was. But.....just to satisfy my curiousity I've also got big blocks and a slant six to boot.

Besides as a very "friendly" lady once told me as a young man, "It's not the size of the wand, but the magic you make with it."


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Re: BB versus SB [Re: Dago Red] #189046
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Wow, we still have these threads
I say to each their own. I know why I am running what I do and thats all that matters. The other thing is what exactly defines small and big? just based off of what it started life is because it seems like more and more "small" block guys are running strokers to make more cubic inch

Its all good because what would winter be without the BB VS SB thread.

Re: BB versus SB [Re: RonP] #189047
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I believe I have the best reason for building a small block!

I built my 408 small block before the 440 stuff got cheap. There were no edelbrock heads and no 440source when I built it. Would of cost a fortune back then to build a 440. So now that I have a 408, I can't complain. It's a 10 second pump gas motor through the mufflers, power steering, brakes and it was my daily driver for several months.
Nowadays I think it would be better to build a big block for the price.

Re: BB versus SB [Re: viperblue72] #189048
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I believe I have the best reason for building a small block!

I built my 408 small block before the 440 stuff got cheap. There were no edelbrock heads and no 440source when I built it. Would of cost a fortune back then to build a 440. So now that I have a 408, I can't complain. It's a 10 second pump gas motor through the mufflers, power steering, brakes and it was my daily driver for several months.
Nowadays I think it would be better to build a big block for the price.



or a big block with boost!

Re: BB versus SB [Re: blownzoom440] #189049
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Is there any Ford or Chevy small blocks that can beat a mopar SB with P5 heads? If not, then i say a SB is best!

Mopars are at a disadvantage when it comes to big block power, both in cubic inches and head flow. So, would'nt it be easier to compete with a small block?

Re: BB versus SB [Re: B1Fish540] #189050
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Normally aspirated BB Hemi on factory bore spacing, deck height, and PUMP E85. I still think 1300+ is there with more cam timing, and some more cam. Where small blocks just can't go LOL. Not even the best pull, just what I have with me now.


Re: BB versus SB [Re: dthemi] #189051
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Darren,
I thought us Washington folk were supposed to stick together!


-Dustin
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68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
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