Re: So are all the FIAT "Hemis" crap?
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07/15/15 11:45 PM
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My r/c 4wd is a '10 so it has 390 hp and the 5 speed auto. It also has 3.92 gears & a sure grip rear. However it's not loaded up with a lot of extras so it probably weighs less than most. It will run circles around all the Magnums I've had & gets as good of mileage unloaded as my last Cummins truck.
I think I've heard it tick a bit on startup a few times but I don't really pay any attention to it. It has 62,xxx miles on it. I've done nothing to it but had the oil changed regularly and a set of spark plugs put in it at 50,xxx miles.
I tow a car trailer with it ever so often and it pulls it easily, even in the Missouri hills where I live. It doesn't have the torque of a Cummins, of course, but moderate towing isn't an issue. I hauled the load pictured about 150 miles. Dallas
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Re: So are all the FIAT "Hemis" crap?
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07/16/15 01:03 AM
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Darn good of you to give that Ford a hand, Dallas. Powerstroke? Gasser? Tow truck got better fuel mileage than the 'Dooty?
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Re: So are all the FIAT "Hemis" crap?
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07/16/15 01:40 AM
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I have a '15 GM as a company truck. The engine sounds funny, it has way more road noise than my '06 3500 dually, but it rides good, drives nice and at 30000 km it is averaging by the dash monitor very close to 12L/100K. A solid 2L/100K better than the Ecoboosts ('13, '14, '15 aluminum-body) in the fleet making the same basic trips. Our fleet manager hates Dodges so I can't get a direct comparison-I am getting about the same 2L/100K better than my brother's '14 Hemi 1500 but I'm not sure that we drive the same. The Ecoboosts feel quicker off the bottom but I'm not sure how they would compare side by side. It's on the agenda to find out someday. I do know that the GMs top speed governor is set a lot lower than I would have expected it to be-I think my dually will go faster although I haven't checked for a fact :-) If I would have been able to choose whatever I wanted it would have been a Dodge-with that option off the table and the new '15 F150s not available I chose a GM mainly because I would never spend my own money on one-might as well live vicariously through someone else.
Jason
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Re: So are all the FIAT "Hemis" crap?
[Re: Grizzly]
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07/16/15 01:42 AM
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Darn good of you to give that Ford a hand, Dallas. Powerstroke? Gasser? Tow truck got better fuel mileage than the 'Dooty? Grizzly, I just give a hand when I can. Poor Ford was broke. It's a gasser so I'm guessing I got about the same mileage towing it as the Ford gets by itself..lol... That's not the first time I've had to give a Ford a hand. Both trucks have a bed full of parts in this pic. Dallas
2012 Rallye Redline Challenger, 1st new car! 2010 Ram 1500 4wd HEMI-hauler 2014 Dodge Dart-gas saver 4 projects and a bunch of parts cars, losing interest since buying the Challenger lol 1969 Dodge Coronet 500-'gonna fix 'er up someday!'
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Re: So are all the FIAT "Hemis" crap?
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07/16/15 08:55 PM
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Cant blame the engine when the truck weighs double what the old ones did. 250 hp in a 4000lb truck will feel faster than 395 in 8000lb truck. Everything dodge makes right now needs massive diets.
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Re: So are all the FIAT "Hemis" crap?
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07/21/15 12:08 AM
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I have owned 4 Durangos, one with 360/5.9 and 3 with Hemi (5.7). I have towed with all. The Hemi is a huge improvement over the 5.9 in tow power and fuel mileage. I have towed up to ~8,000 lb (carefully) with the Hemi and ~6,000 lb (fast). In a 3/4 ton PU, 10k# should be fine. A NA engine will need to spin a little to pull the hills but within reason does not hurt anything. Hemi's like to spin! When towing, I like to limit to about 4,000 RPM on a full effort pull to preserve the engine... though higher RPM would top the hill faster. Also, with a significant hill ahead, I gear down on the flat to save the heavy shift on the hill. With the 5.9 was more like 3,500 RPM max practical.
My current gen III Durango has over 170k and runs perfectly. Oil consumption as new. 5w20 Mobile 1 since the first oil change. Older hemi's I ran with 5 or 10w-30 but not with MDS.
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Re: So are all the FIAT "Hemis" crap?
[Re: WO23Coronet]
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07/24/15 01:40 AM
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If I start it up for only a min or so to move it then shut it down, it will then tick when restarted. If it is run for more than a minute or two it doesn't tick. You made a mistake buying the 6 speed auto, it's a pos. The 8 speed changes it completely. Mine had 3.21 gears and it has plenty of get up and go and now that I have over 8000kms it will pull off 22mpg.
As for the 5W20, don't worry about it not being thick enough, you need it for the MDS to work. The engineers know what their doing.
Mine is a 2014 Ram Sport
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Re: So are all the FIAT "Hemis" crap?
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07/29/15 12:15 AM
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Well: I haven't even washed it and they're tearing down the engine. Hopefully it will have some power when they finish replacing the broken pieces. Whatapiecacrap.
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Re: So are all the FIAT "Hemis" crap?
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07/29/15 12:33 PM
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Well Stumpy, my 86, 125HP, 318 D150 was more driveable with more useable torque than this "395HP" wondertruck. The techs aren't sure what they're going to find and said they haven't heard anything like it so we'll see what they find today.
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Re: So are all the FIAT "Hemis" crap?
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07/29/15 03:32 PM
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I have same complaint with power. My 95 5.2 magnum in a half ton had more power than my 04 5.7 3/4 ton. Used a lot less gas too. Everyone repeat with me... power to weight ratio! It is not quite double the HP but it is double the weight, if your mpg is even in the ball park be happy about that at least.
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Re: So are all the FIAT "Hemis" crap?
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07/29/15 04:04 PM
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There is no comparison, the old trucks even the magnum ones were slugs. The newer stuff doesn't feel as fast in comparison but look at 1/4 mile performance among other things. You take a mid 80s truck and drag race it and you will need a calendar to track the pass, the magnum trucks were a little better but still slugs. Even the first 5.7 hemi trucks would wipe the floor with the old stuff.
That's all personal experience i'm not going to find data on the old trucks because no one had time for those things to finish making a pass!
And about the noises, yeah they suck but its common for some reason these days. We have newer Ford and Chevrolet vehicles in our fleet at work and on a cold winter morning its taps and rattles everywhere. However they sound like crap new and don't sound any worse with 200,000 on them. My 08 Hemi ram sounded rough when cold but ran perfect.
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Re: So are all the FIAT "Hemis" crap?
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07/29/15 05:11 PM
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I have no experience w/ the new hemis, but do they have knock sensors that could be pulling timing when the motor is "knocking"? Just wondering if it was piston slap or a lifter causing the knocking sound, would the sensor mistake it for detonation and pull timing out of it?
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Re: So are all the FIAT "Hemis" crap?
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07/29/15 10:56 PM
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Jeez Hot Rod Dave, that's just brilliant. Thanks for that. The dealer techs ran it for over an hour trying to figure out the noise so then it finally went away. Then they wanted me to pick the truck up, I told them to, well I told them no. I'll be phoning Chrysler Canada tomorrow unless they start ripping into it. I am not accepting it back unless I know it's fixed. Seems basic enough, order a complete set of lifters and look for wear marks and rubbed parts.
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