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Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: pittsburghracer] #1871621
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I want to see parts born from it for us common folk. Currently,just like Nascar, they use NOTHING that can be used on an affordable bracket or street car. I know guys use the old R5 stuff but yeah....


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Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: WHITEDART] #1871624
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Originally Posted By WHITEDART
Sounds like the change they need



REALLY? It`s about as stupid as "no confederate flag", can`t say this or can`t wear this in school. Leave [censored] alone because change isn`t ALWAYS good and Pro-stock was founded on n/a engines not this moders CRAP they`re spittin out these dayz. No wonder our world`s so f#$^d up.......... down whistling


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Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: pittsburghracer] #1871639
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I don't really get the correlation to the confederate flag but using production based motors is definitely a step in the right direction. So what they're supercharged, wasn't Pro Stock originally like outlaw Super Stock back when it started (1970?)? They used production engines then, why not now? People like rooting for something they can correlate to, if the Dodge Boys are using an engine loosely based on what's in my truck or Magnum I'd be a lot more invested/interested. Top Fuel uses forced induction are they a bunch of pansies? ProMod? Any of the fast 10.5, 275, Street Outlaw whatever all use FI.
ProStock as it is is dying, I guess they could hang onto "history" and go down with the ship but then what? And imagine what it would do for the current aftermarket for the Gen III HEMI. Current Pro Stock does nothing for the masses of Mopar fans, using a Gen III would be a huge boost.

Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: pittsburghracer] #1871665
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It will be interesting to see how this plays out if true. I am not a huge fan of Pro Stock using power adders though. I'd rather see them stick to production style n/a engines ~7.0L or so.


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Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: WO23Coronet] #1871677
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From a fans perspective if this is handled right I think it'll be good. Hopefully the cars will more closely related to whats sitting in the parking lot and the engines will be based off CURRENT production engines. So what if they're super charged, all the factories fastest offerings are supercharged.

I hope it's true.

Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: pittsburghracer] #1871680
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Don't hold your breathe...


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Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: pittsburghracer] #1871684
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I'll honestly be suprised if this is true, I'm hoping it is but skeptical it is BS

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Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: JERICOGTX] #1871690
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Originally Posted By JERICOGTX
Originally Posted By Steve1118
We'll see. You are talking about obsoleting literally millions of dollars worth of r&d, plus engines & pieces. Not to mention the cars themselves.


All that stuff is obsolete year to year anyways.



True, I know a guy who is sitting on a half dozen or more Hemi 99 blocks.

Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: Steve1118] #1871693
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Originally Posted By Steve1118
We'll see. You are talking about obsoleting literally millions of dollars worth of r&d, plus engines & pieces. Not to mention the cars themselves.


The big boys replace their cars season to season anyway.

Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: pittsburghracer] #1871697
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I watch every race that is televised but I'm part of that older crowd, ask a twenty something about pro stock and you'll probably get a blank stare.
Times they are changing
Remember when Buddy Ingersol tried to run fuel injection in pro stock?

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Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: pittsburghracer] #1871702
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Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: pittsburghracer] #1871705
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99 blocks are easy to come buy GOOD 99/06 blocks and heads not so much. When Mopar came out with the symmetrical port version no one could make power and teams went about procuring all the asymmetrical stuff they could find for a time. The port design may change frequently or regularly but the hard parts not as much. The stuff is out there you just need to know WHAT you are looking for and WHERE to find the good stuff.


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Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: pittsburghracer] #1871717
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Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: WO23Coronet] #1871725
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Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
I don't really get the correlation to the confederate flag but using production based motors is definitely a step in the right direction. So what they're supercharged, wasn't Pro Stock originally like outlaw Super Stock back when it started (1970?)? They used production engines then, why not now? People like rooting for something they can correlate to, if the Dodge Boys are using an engine loosely based on what's in my truck or Magnum I'd be a lot more invested/interested. Top Fuel uses forced induction are they a bunch of pansies? ProMod? Any of the fast 10.5, 275, Street Outlaw whatever all use FI.
ProStock as it is is dying, I guess they could hang onto "history" and go down with the ship but then what? And imagine what it would do for the current aftermarket for the Gen III HEMI. Current Pro Stock does nothing for the masses of Mopar fans, using a Gen III would be a huge boost.


IF I liked the modern stuff I guess it would be cool but I don`t therefore it isn`t of any interest to me that`s all and N/A is the most impressive and always will be.........to ME............... drumhit


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Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: pittsburghracer] #1871755
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The 500" Pro-Stock motor ran it's course years ago. Those motors are virtually useless to anyone BUT a PS guy. The correct move is base it on production motors, or allow the bigger motors like IHRA PS

They already HAD a small block N/A class, it was PS Truck and that went over like a lead balloon so why try it again. You think just putting the same motors in door cars vs trucks will make a difference? NO. Plus you immediately slow a PRO class down over a second and a half. Nobody wants to see that.

If you allow a "spec" blower, that only makes X amount of boost, this still puts a premium on parts and engine development vs just shoving more boost in them.

Would be interesting, but I will believe it when I see it.

Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: Thumperdart] #1871779
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Fair enough, but even then the PS stuff is cool but from another planet when compared to any Mopar BB. When Alderman ran I was really into it because it was still pretty close to BB stuff. The 99 HEMI is cool but it seems that the format of PS is having a hard time getting viewers

Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: RV2] #1871808
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Originally Posted By RV2
I watch every race that is televised but I'm part of that older crowd, ask a twenty something about pro stock and you'll probably get a blank stare.
Times they are changing
Remember when Buddy Ingersol tried to run fuel injection in pro stock?


Not just FI but a FI turbo Buick V6 against the 500"ers.

Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: pittsburghracer] #1871855
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You can do whatever you want with P/S and fans will still stay away in droves. PS/T died because the fans would not watch it. It was also a class of 20 Chevies, 3 Dodges, and maybe 1 Ford because like everything else the parts/technology was there for the Chevy and not for anyone else. Hell, the Fords wouldn't even fall out of a tree they were so bad.

Unfortunatdly, if it don't run on nitro fans don't watch it. The few hundred of us that do are a real minority.


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Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: WO23Coronet] #1871910
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Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
Fair enough, but even then the PS stuff is cool but from another planet when compared to any Mopar BB. When Alderman ran I was really into it because it was still pretty close to BB stuff. The 99 HEMI is cool but it seems that the format of PS is having a hard time getting viewers


I`m too stupid to mess w/power adder stuff and can barely make n/a stuff work SO, the simplicity(so some say)of n/a just turns me on although we all know no n/a car on the planet can compete w/power adder stuff...... thumbs


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Re: Maybe a new direction coming for NHRA Pro Stock [Re: pittsburghracer] #1872015
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Wonder how far Mr. Wescott has gotten on this near dead class......

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