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Re: In-line Hemi Carbs & Linkages
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i just bought a stage 5 intake off the 'bag and my bee has a ramcharger setup .
Is the devil wearing snowboots? 
nope , as much as i malign ebarf , when its necessary and its always necessary , if i see a good deal i'll buy it . of course i paid LESS for it than buying it from a retailer , i think , paid $495 and its NEW ??? , and its local so i don't have to pay shipping .
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Re: In-line Hemi Carbs & Linkages
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11/25/05 04:43 AM
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John: I have the Stage V with dual 1850's and I have a stock intake with Carters and the airhorns on the Stage V setup is 1 inch higher than the stock setup. With the Ramcharger aircleaner you could drop it down at least 1/2 inch when you modify it to fit the Stage V carb spacing. I am hooking the carbs direct because it is a single plane intake. Although I suppose progressive linkage could work.
You'll like that intake, I think it is the only intake I've owned that I could check the head port alignment by simply looking through the carb bores at the head ports.
Sheldon
thanks sheldon , i was thinking about this yesterday , the carbs are spaced further apart so how do you modify the lid ? or do you have to use some funky bent hold down studs ?
does anyone sell a base modified since i don't have one and what does making it a drop base do to the distance between the lid and the carb air horns ? or am i looking at removing the choke horns for best performance ???
might have to ditch this intake and buy the MP one ??? or wait for the stock spacing repop ???
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Re: In-line Hemi Carbs & Linkages
[Re: JohnRR]
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11/25/05 09:11 AM
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John: I have the Stage V with dual 1850's and I have a stock intake with Carters and the airhorns on the Stage V setup is 1 inch higher than the stock setup. With the Ramcharger aircleaner you could drop it down at least 1/2 inch when you modify it to fit the Stage V carb spacing. I am hooking the carbs direct because it is a single plane intake. Although I suppose progressive linkage could work.
You'll like that intake, I think it is the only intake I've owned that I could check the head port alignment by simply looking through the carb bores at the head ports.
Sheldon
thanks sheldon , i was thinking about this yesterday , the carbs are spaced further apart so how do you modify the lid ? or do you have to use some funky bent hold down studs ?
does anyone sell a base modified since i don't have one and what does making it a drop base do to the distance between the lid and the carb air horns ? or am i looking at removing the choke horns for best performance ???
might have to ditch this intake and buy the MP one ??? or wait for the stock spacing repop ???
Ben Snobar sells bases to fit these intakes. They are kinda expensive, I think about $800.00. That is why I made my own. Oh well, welcome to hemiville.
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Re: In-line Hemi Carbs & Linkages
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11/25/05 04:11 PM
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I don't know anything about the base plate or how it will fit with the hood. My guess is that you'll need to perform some surgery.
You can use those air cleaner adapter rings but they set the air cleaner up about 1/2". Can't see them with the cleaner installed but only cost a few bucks compaired to a few hundred bucks for a repo base.
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Re: In-line Hemi Carbs & Linkages
[Re: JohnRR]
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11/25/05 04:18 PM
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I don't know anything about the base plate or how it will fit with the hood. My guess is that you'll need to perform some surgery.
You can use those air cleaner adapter rings but they set the air cleaner up about 1/2". Can't see them with the cleaner installed but only cost a few bucks compaired to a few hundred bucks for a repo base.
mark i think we went over this before , NOT happening , the carbs are further apart , the only setup that the adaptor rings will work with is a factory stock 66-71 inline intake with replacement carter or eddy carbs .
i'll have to butcher an air cleaner to use either the stage 5 intake or the new MP intake .
Thats right, I forgot that your were using the Stage 5.
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Re: In-line Hemi Carbs & Linkages
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11/25/05 04:24 PM
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Have any idea what Ben is doing?
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i just checked , he has a base , its not cheap but ...
the question is what lid would one use ???
anyone got a stage 5 intake setup with a carbs on it and can i get a center to center measurement of the air cleaner holddown studs, please ?
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Re: In-line Hemi Carbs & Linkages
[Re: JohnRR]
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11/25/05 05:39 PM
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does anyone sell a base modified since i don't have one and what does making it a drop base do to the distance between the lid and the carb air horns ? or am i looking at removing the choke horns for best performance ???
Check with Classic Haulage in Canada. He advertises in MCG and makes a lot of different Hemi bases.
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Re: In-line Hemi Carbs & Linkages
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11/25/05 05:42 PM
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I'll measure it up for you John. I never fully figured out the Ramcharger style setup as I changed cars to a 66 before I ran the setup on my 71. On my 66 the Holley float bowls are too long and you cannot use the stock filter in any way, so I'm rigging up some of those goofy short foam element Edelbrock air cleaners under the stock chrome dome. I think you may be able to mill a bit off the stage V's carb mounting area to bring everything down a bit as well.
Okay here we go:
Stage V carb center to center 8.5"
Original center to center 6 5/8"
Stage V with 1850 Holley end to end 17 3/8"
Stock ramcharger filter end to end inside 17 1/4"
Stock hemi AFB bottom to air horn 4"
Holley 1850 bottom to air horn 3 1/4"
Stage V and Holley front carb bottom of manifold to air horn 8"
Stock intake and hemi AFB's front carb bottom of manifold to air horn 8 3/4"
In a nutshell the Holley's aren't going to work with the stock air filter very well as they are too long.
I would check the newstyle AFB's as they will be lower than the small top hemi ones are, you should be able to make the Ramcharger work with the new AFB's, a modified baseplate and some offset air cleaner studs.
Sheldon
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Re: In-line Hemi Carbs & Linkages
[Re: JohnRR]
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11/29/05 03:38 PM
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Have any idea what Ben is doing?
edit ... ...
i just checked , he has a base , its not cheap but ...
the question is what lid would one use ???
anyone got a stage 5 intake setup with a carbs on it and can i get a center to center measurement of the air cleaner holddown studs, please ?
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