69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion
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I bought this car over a month ago on ehay. Looked too cool for the price to pass up and wasn't much info in the auction. Someone talked me into buying it, so took a chance without more info since it was in the south west. I figured worst case good parts car. Well it arrived, floor was shot, lots of wiring and stuff I didn't like plus a slant 6/3 speed with a floor shifter I couldn't shift well I didn't want to put $ into a 4 door so decided instead of cutting up for parts, I'd make it into something I'd like. So here it is, the not as easy a the older b-body 4 to 2 door conversion. How it looked when it arrived:
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Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion
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Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion
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Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion
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And the donor and roof section
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Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion
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And with a little help setting in place, the roof section went on fairly easy
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Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion
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All welded at pinch weld and so on... and new quarter starting to be installed
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Quarters fit so good, goodmark, that I got them and the deck filler done in an afternoon... still some welding to finish, but more than happy with how well it went
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Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion
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That's as far as I got on it in the last week or so now. My garage is too full so have to work on it outside. Weather didn't agree yesterday.
I can say it wasn't the easiest conversion, but definitely not the most difficult either. I still have to change the roof skin. I wanted to use a structure that was all one piece to keep things square.
I was told I was crazy for taking doing this... but I don't think it was any worse than doing full frame rails and such.
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Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion
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Very nice! I'd have done the same thing...if I had your welding and fabrication skills, lol.
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Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion
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I already have two 2 doors, but both I couldn't justify cutting/modifying to do what I wanted with. The satellite is already redone and way too original... my roadrunner is 95% plus original sheetmetal. So figured with this I'd have no problem putting in a rollbar, minitub it and so on. It will be a street car, but more of a track car. It really was easy in my mind, just a ton of cutting and drilling. I did the apillars to the factory spots. The rear panels to rocker and wheel houses, they were in between, so I overlapped and welded in place... reason for the seam sealer. That and I wasn't going for a perfect factory look. This was far less work than drilling thousands of spot welds to use the good panels on a rusty car. I learned how to do body work on wrecked cars. Doing clip, rad supports etc. So this was really no different than that. When it's done it will look just like any other 2 door and you'd really have to look to tell it was a 4 door... or look at the vin
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Wait, who's this fool that "talked" you into that car???
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Ha! At first I thought yeah that guy is nuts. But really this is a great project and another 69 stays on the road. Kudo's!
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Ha! At first I thought yeah that guy is nuts. But really this is a great project and another 69 stays on the road. Kudo's!
Sheldon When I was all in pieces I felt like I was nuts. Had it been solid and not needing rust repair, I probably would have left it a 4 door. But 2 of the 4 doors are damaged, floors front to back and the rear window opening was shot including the corner sections that are part of the quarters. Then the package tray was all hacked up too.
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You're a better man than I. I'd have bet money you couldn't convert that vintage. Whole lot more difficult than the early-mid 60's b bodies. Well done!
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A frankenbee sold on ebay once, they'd split a superbee horizontally to get rid of lower body rust and welded that to the bottom from a 4-door.
It has a WM23M9A VIN on it when finished.
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Definitely more of that bee used than of the rr I used. I believe 4 door vs 2 door coronet has a different wheelhouses. I was told that at least. I know for sure plymouth are the same at least physically, not sure on part #.
I haven't made any progress on it since the last pics. Just too much other stuff going on still... but plan is to finish it for next spring.
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Got the one piece floor pan and 2 rear pans installed. Replaced the center of the trunk floor, got the rollbar installed and new roof skin. Need to fix the door, some rust/dents, but otherwise metal works about done now.
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It's been minitubbed too... still need to do the inboard spring relocation. Plan to do a triangular 4 link later, so I can reuse the front inboard spring location then too.
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Been a while, but took a week to do the body work and get some epoxy on it. Few spots to fix yet on the shell. Doors aren't done yet... but should be painted before it gets cold here.
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It's hard to believe its the same car. Wow!!! Now I have ideas. Great work!!
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Couple in paint pics... gota paint the hood yet, but just black on it. I was hoping the paint would be darker, but will do. It is rallye green.
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That's gonna work out fine...
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Yes: It's easy to find the flaws with the shiny paint and the new paint will cover well over the green already on there.
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Much happier with it now. Paints like a shade darker, but big thing is the coverage.
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Pic in the sun... sure looks a lot different when lighting changes. The started putting on some part.
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Front bumper... still gota black out the rad support, engine bay and rad support still have spray liquid masking film, reason it's not done yet. Got the dash switched over to black, was a tan/bronze color.
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looks great. Did you install the headliner yet?
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WOW. Very well done. I' have a solid 67 Plymouth belvedere 4dr and a rusty rough 67 coronet deluxe 2dr post. I have always put it on my get to it someday list. After seeing what you've done has motivated me to get started. My goal is to turn the Plymouth 4dr into a 2dr post ss drag car. If you don't mind a may have a few questions for you? Not sure how much I could help, never worked on a 67 to know what you would need to do on one of those.
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Have another big project I need to finish before I can do much with this car... I'm not a good multitasker. Hopefully I can finish it up this summer finally.
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