Re: Mystery Solved: Is This Charger The Very Last Hemi Car?
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Has every 1971 Chrysler that received a Hemi been accounted for. One word answer *NO*. Did this Private Investigator ever look into all of the other Chargers, Super Bees, Road Runners, GTXs, Cudas and Challengers built in 1971 that received a HEMI, NO. Did this same PI also know all the Hemi Production Numbers for 1971 from USA,CAN, and Export, no, because no one has all the figures. Did this PI look into the last known 1971 E Bodies produced. I do not believe the PI has, because he has not contacted the owner of the last known 1971 Hemi E Body. All this just makes for reading on a winter night and it really does not mean anything except to state this in an E Bay Ad when someone decides to sell the car or when someone displays the car at a Show stating it is the Last one built.
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Re: Mystery Solved: Is This Charger The Very Last Hemi Car?
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I work in the Automotive Production Industry. All this paper work might mean zippo. The definition of when a car is considered built is a question that has never been answered. Likely none of the last Hemi Cars build with a SPD in June were built on the date on the Fender Tag. I know this 100 percent, I own a June built Hemi Car. From what I understand for a lot of these builds is parts were hard to find, delaying the build. The Hemi motors that were put in June built Hemi cars have likely casting dates in 1968 at the end of the year usually 11-11-68. My 1971 Hemi Car was delayed quite a while after its SPD. I know the last Hemi E Body built the owner told me he almost did not even get the car do to the late build of his car. He was also told that his car was the last Hemi E Body built by Chrysler. Some times cars sit and sit and sit outside waiting for repairs and parts and then go back through the Care Line and the shipping papers are made then making the end build date or shipping date much later than the SPD on the fender tag and much later that the first day the body started at the plant. So you have to off been at every plant to see exactly what happened with the last Hemi Cars build at each factory. Maybe there were 1972 Hemi Cars built, never seen one, I have heard of two E Bodies, but I still find if had to believe because why then was there no 440-6 built in an ebody knowing there were 1972 B Bodies with 440 six packs built. Could we all be looking at the wrong year for the last hemi car built and it was put into a 1972 B Body.
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Re: Mystery Solved: Is This Charger The Very Last Hemi Car?
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I had forgot that at that time Holidays were sched. for the last two weeks of July. Today most plants the Holidays are the first two weeks of July. I said that it would of been a thing to put the Last Hemi Car on an Ebay ad or on a Show Car Poster. Looks like both were done putting the Car up for sale a Mecum. I guess it is all about the money in this hobby anymore. Is this the car the last Hemi Car Built at the plant. If you consider a car coming off the end of an assembly line the place it is considered built then you would have to be there watching every car go off the line. If you consider the car being driven over to the car carrier or rail yard being released to the shipper as the assembly time then you would have to be at that spot watching all the car being driven away. No one will know if these SPD are close,unless you were there.
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Re: Mystery Solved: Is This Charger The Very Last Hemi Car?
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Dan is more than likely correct that for a Hemi Cars to be built in a 1972 Model Vehicle would likely be prebuild or pre August build and would likely be a pilot vehicle. The 1972 Six Pack cars, I have never looked at any of the casting dates or any build dates on these cars and do not know the exact or close to exact date these 1972 were built before or after August 1st 1971. Since I was into all these E Bodies since day one, when 1972 Cudas came out and the big motors were dropped no one really looked at these car for Hemis or Six Packs and if one had a big motor you thought it was swapped in the body or was a race car that was altered in someway. Back in 1970-71-72 no one looked at a VIN on the dash or a fender tag or even cared if it was an original Hemi or Six pack car, the car just had to be fast with these motors. They were new cars. In around 1975,76 things started to change with the beginning of the National Hemi Owners Association. People started to understand what the 5th digit in a serial number was and the cat was let out of the bag soon after that.
Getting back to 1971 last Hemi Cars. Dan states that no production in the last two week of July and that is do to Shut Down, holidays. So there was no production in the last two week of July for Hemi Cars and likely there was no production at all in July for these Hemi Cars. It is stated the Charger has a June 11, 1971 SPD on the fender tag. I know the last Hemi E Body built SPD is later than this date of July 11, 1971 and Production for this type of E Body was running around 10 days late making its build maybe around July 1st or later.
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Re: Mystery Solved: Is This Charger The Very Last Hemi Car?
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There are much better writers than I am that study mopars and have bigger and better collections of interesting facts on all Vehicles Chrysler produced. There are a few that have worked at the Chrysler Assembly Line factories that built these vehicles that we all love and enjoy and there information and stories are cool to read. There are others on here that have started to really study the builds of the cars and have amassed information that many that worked at the plant just take for granted and these people seem to see outside the box and that is a good thing. My interest has been 1971 Hemi E Body Hardtops. Gave all my information I have amassed on the Hemi E Body Convertibles to Ola Nilsson, Cudaized on moparts and he does a great job in his registry. I gave a lot of information to Barry Washingtons registry on 1970 Hamtramck build and this registry is over the top, his is the King when it comes to a web site and a registry. There are many others 6bblgt has amassed tons of information that is real nice to have but it takes a lot of work for him to do it and there are many others on moparts that have amassed information and do not mind sharing the information to benefit the hobby. I would say it would be better to deal with all these people. We all live all across North America and have seen a lot of cars that others like myself would never get a chance to see, so dealing with all is a good thing. Diego on moparts has amassed a lot and is a writer and has outside the box collection of information that is very cool like strips and color combinations.
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