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Re: EBC brake pads [Re: autoxcuda] #1797806
04/07/15 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted By autoxcuda
Do you notice any braking differences so far?



I'm still beading them in (doing it slowly for even wear on the rotors and progressively firmer/harder for street use mostly), but after the first couple of 'slight firmer' brake-attempts I thought I could feel some more brake force coming from the front wheels. But that could also be wishfull thinking on my part. (I just read on their site that must have been the break-in coating feeling extra grabby in the beginning).
I'll have some daily commutes to work and back this week on which I'll go easy on them, but will do some harder braking near the end of the week probably.

Re: EBC brake pads [Re: Tomswheels] #1798225
04/08/15 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted By Tomswheels

I don't know which "color" of their pads are best for street use.


Red seems the most appropriate for street use with moderate wt RWD cars like ours. Green loses friction as it gets hot, might be disappointing on a long downhill or high speed stop - almost like a drum shoe overheating. Yellow probably better for track (or vehicle that will heat up the brakes quickly)

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taken from the web, probably from EBC, not of date.

Re: EBC brake pads [Re: Mattax] #1799399
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I ran the yellow stuff on my wife's jeep, she complained about the squealing but they would put you through the windshield. I wound up putting in some basic ceramics after they wore out, now I have to stand on the pedal to get it to slow down. She like it better because they don't squeal. I may just put dual piston calipers to get it to brake better off of a Grand Cherokee.


See if you can buy the pads with the same "Professional Grade" lining as the D52 pads on my GrandWagoneer. Lots of grab, friction rating FF, semi-metallic, no-squeal, reasonably priced.
Here's the details.
Mfc: Raybestos
Pad shape: D52
Edge Code: BPI-LC-FF
Mfc Desc: Professional Grade
Part Number: PGD52M
Type of Lining: Semi-Metalic

The G Wagoneer only has a single pot sliding caliper - nothing special. Yesterday I was carrying close to a full load (about 900 lbs) and it braked well, only got the linings hot enough to smell once. Of course I allowed for extra stopping distance and all the usual precautions with extra weight in the back.

Rock auto specs them out as D477 pads for a 98 wrangler. My YJ has a grand wagoner axle, I may have to check them out for it. Tim


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Re: EBC brake pads [Re: can.al] #1812328
04/26/15 02:48 PM
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20 days have past since the installation of the Yellow Stuff pads and new discs.

These pads do dust a lot more than the Hawks HPS, but they grab more as well. If I would have to put a percentage number on it, I would say they are about 10-15% better.
No squeeling noticed, other than an occassional little squeek when applying the brakepedal.

If these pads have rebalanced the rear brakebias in my car I call myself happy.
I haven't done a full force emergency stop yet, but done a few 70-80% force stops which went nice and true.

The finish on the rotors is still nice. Perhaps because I've beaded them in the easy way.





Re: EBC brake pads [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1812334
04/26/15 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBlockMopar
20 days have past since the installation of the Yellow Stuff pads and new discs.

These pads do dust a lot more than the Hawks HPS, but they grab more as well. If I would have to put a percentage number on it, I would say they are about 10-15% better.
No squeeling noticed, other than an occassional little squeek when applying the brakepedal.

If these pads have rebalanced the rear brakebias in my car I call myself happy.
I haven't done a full force emergency stop yet, but done a few 70-80% force stops which went nice and true.

The finish on the rotors is still nice. Perhaps because I've beaded them in the easy way.


Do they grab and stop nicely when cold?

Re: EBC brake pads [Re: can.al] #1812390
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I haven't noticed a very big difference when cold but if there is some less grab, then it's gone after the 2nd or 3rd brake application from cold.
However, this is ofcourse based on simple daily driving.

Maybe the difference in hot/cold grab would become more obvious in racing situations where some more heat is put into the system.

But they're certainly not 'scary' when cold.

Re: EBC brake pads [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1812568
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I have a set of the yellow stuff pads coming. Previously I used Performance Friction carbon mettalic with a Cobra based front system.

The carbon mettalic hung in pretty well warmed up but could use some more bite/friction. The yellow stuff should be better... we'll see.

Re: EBC brake pads [Re: Tomswheels] #1813120
04/27/15 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Tomswheels
[quote=BigBlockMopar]
Do they grab and stop nicely when cold?


Mine don't.... not the best cold In my case? Much better when they get some heat in them. popcorn

Re: EBC brake pads [Re: brads70] #1813151
04/27/15 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted By brads70
Originally Posted By Tomswheels
[quote=BigBlockMopar]
Do they grab and stop nicely when cold?


Mine don't.... not the best cold In my case? Much better when they get some heat in them. popcorn


What are that like cold?

Do you have to be:

a) little
b)fairly
c)a lot

cautious when braking when cold?

What does it take to get them warm? How many stops? hard or regular stops?

Re: EBC brake pads [Re: autoxcuda] #1813681
04/28/15 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted By autoxcuda
Originally Posted By brads70
Originally Posted By Tomswheels
[quote=BigBlockMopar]
Do they grab and stop nicely when cold?


Mine don't.... not the best cold In my case? Much better when they get some heat in them. popcorn


What are that like cold?

Do you have to be:

a) little
b)fairly
c)a lot

cautious when braking when cold?

What does it take to get them warm? How many stops? hard or regular stops?

I would say "fairly" cautious. They won't lock the front wheels until they get hot. They don't get hot enough until 5-6 hard stops. Eg. at the autocross track at Carlisle they gripped much better after about running half the track? I don't think I'd get them again, I'd try something else. I bought Carbotech AX6 to try on my AMG/Brembo calipers. I have Viper Brembo's now

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Re: EBC brake pads [Re: autoxcuda] #1814190
04/28/15 10:03 PM
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Hi Steve

I have the yellow pads in my car, they don't stop the best when they are cold on the street so I'm a little cautious, I have dragged the brake a bit to get a bit of heat in them on the street. They work great on the track, one lap at the track and they work great. They do leave a lot of dust on the wheels but I think they all do.

Re: EBC brake pads [Re: can.al] #1814349
04/29/15 12:56 AM
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Dust is a byproduct of good pads I have learned.


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