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Big Block Mopar Cylinder Head Prototype Design Project #1805435
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Well, its been a long time coming but the day is finally here. I intended to do numerous videos to add to the site but as my fathers birthday drew near, it just made sense to go live with the campaign on his birthday. So here it is for all moparts viewers to see first.

I would ask that you approach this project with an open mind and further that you enjoy what you see. The website below details the cylinder head design and how you can contribute. I will also post the crowdfunding link as well. Please enjoy and if you decide to make a contribution, please spread the word! Thanks and welcome to Project Mo-Power!

Sincerely, Adriel Paradise


Project Link: https://a-paradise.squarespace.com/

Support Link: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/project-mo-power/x/9984051

Also, if anyone has any questions regarding the project, please feel free to email me directly at adrielparadise@yahoo.com or post those questions here thanks!


Attached photo shows 8 total configurations, 4 different valve layouts for the wedge style and 4 different valve layouts for the canted style.

V301 Cylinder Head Display.jpg
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Re: Big Block Mopar Cylinder Head Prototype Design Project [Re: Adrielp] #1805516
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Canted Configuration

V301 C Cylinder Head Rocker Assembly 12-4.jpg

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Wedge Configuration

V301 W Cylinder Head Rocker Assembly 22-5.jpg

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Re: Big Block Mopar Cylinder Head Prototype Design Project [Re: Adrielp] #1805547
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Val-haul-ass... eventually
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Re: Big Block Mopar Cylinder Head Prototype Design Project [Re: Adrielp] #1805550
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Now we are talking...


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Re: Big Block Mopar Cylinder Head Prototype Design Project [Re: Adrielp] #1805552
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I wouldn't choose any of the valve layouts with 2 exhaust valves next to each other


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Re: Big Block Mopar Cylinder Head Prototype Design Project [Re: Adrielp] #1805566
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Re: Big Block Mopar Cylinder Head Prototype Design Project [Re: sixpackgut] #1805568
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Beautiful.

I hope you are looking at NASCAR head configurations, as well as Jon Kaase's 460 heads, for inspiration.
One could do worse than ape those designs.
Or for inline valves, the latest LS heads.

Evenly spaced intake and exhaust ports seem to be the most successful these days.

R.

Re: Big Block Mopar Cylinder Head Prototype Design Project [Re: dogdays] #1805577
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Originally Posted By dogdays
Beautiful.

I hope you are looking at NASCAR head configurations, as well as Jon Kaase's 460 heads, for inspiration.
One could do worse than ape those designs.
Or for inline valves, the latest LS heads.

Evenly spaced intake and exhaust ports seem to be the most successful these days.

R.


I actually got a little advice from Jon on the port design. He looked at an early version of the port design for me. Can't thank Jon and the entire Comp Cams Engineering team(Billy, Cody, Brian, and many others) enough for making that happen. Working for those guys as an intern was the ultimate learning experience. The ultimate goal is to establish a solid foundation to build upon because everything at higher levels of horsepower are so combination specific. If I can do that, I feel like I have done my job.


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So do you have an actual prototype built, or is it all CAD drawings? Do you really think $12k will get even one of the designs to the point where it can be produced?

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Very nice,,, run with your ideas. I hope this stays a positive topic.

Re: Big Block Mopar Cylinder Head Prototype Design Project [Re: Adrielp] #1805586
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Do you really think $12k will get even one of the designs to the point where it can be produced?


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Funding Goal: $12000(this covers the cost of CNC machining, valve guides, valve seats)


I think this means a prototype that can be put on a flowbench and tested. Production would still be a long way off.

Something to consider would be a single complete chamber 3D printed. Do your testing with that. Probably a hell of a lot less expensive than a complete billet head !

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Your wedge configuration gets my vote if you can make it a 12 degree. Do it, don't let anyone try to dissuade you.


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I like configuration two on the Wedge and the Canted

Re: Big Block Mopar Cylinder Head Prototype Design Project [Re: Adrielp] #1805608
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I donated, I don't even want to vote because I don't care.

I am happy to see someone doing something to move mopars forward. Instead of complaining about bore spacing you are doing something and that is admirable!

I hope the experience from this will lead you to bigger things...like say blocks.

I do think stanton hit the nail on the head though, I would try having a full cylinder section or even a full head 3D printed, maybe find some head porting wizards to play with the design a bit and see what it can really do.

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Originally Posted By Stanton


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Do you really think $12k will get even one of the designs to the point where it can be produced?


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Funding Goal: $12000(this covers the cost of CNC machining, valve guides, valve seats)


I think this means a prototype that can be put on a flowbench and tested. Production would still be a long way off.

Something to consider would be a single complete chamber 3D printed. Do your testing with that. Probably a hell of a lot less expensive than a complete billet head !


I agree. That's how some of the bigger manufactures do it. Edlebrock does that with their new heads like the new hemi head they now make. Have you done any CFD analysis on any of the designs?

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Originally Posted By 451Cuda
So do you have an actual prototype built, or is it all CAD drawings? Do you really think $12k will get even one of the designs to the point where it can be produced?


For my senior design project I designed and produced a one cylinder prototype of the cylinder head and what you see is something that has been refined beyond that. So we were able to do some initial testing done with that, which showed some promise. That is what led to this particular phase of the project.


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Not trying to derail any new contributions to the Mopar cause, just want to make sure it's legit and not some pipe-dream or scam.

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Originally Posted By Stanton


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Do you really think $12k will get even one of the designs to the point where it can be produced?


Quote:
Funding Goal: $12000(this covers the cost of CNC machining, valve guides, valve seats)


I think this means a prototype that can be put on a flowbench and tested. Production would still be a long way off.

Something to consider would be a single complete chamber 3D printed. Do your testing with that. Probably a hell of a lot less expensive than a complete billet head !


To answer the question of producing the head. Minus valvetrain, 12k gets you a set of bare cylinder head(ie cnc machining, valve guides, seats, etc). I went conservative with the goal to progress the project forward.

Also, please keep in mind that with this being a clean sheet project, I am sure there will be challenges to overcome but that is with any new project.


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Originally Posted By Adrielp
Originally Posted By Stanton


Quote:
Do you really think $12k will get even one of the designs to the point where it can be produced?


Quote:
Funding Goal: $12000(this covers the cost of CNC machining, valve guides, valve seats)


I think this means a prototype that can be put on a flowbench and tested. Production would still be a long way off.

Something to consider would be a single complete chamber 3D printed. Do your testing with that. Probably a hell of a lot less expensive than a complete billet head !


To answer the question of producing the head. Minus valvetrain, 12k gets you a set of bare cylinder head(ie cnc machining, valve guides, seats, etc). I went conservative with the goal to progress the project forward.

Also, please keep in mind that with this being a clean sheet project, I am sure there will be challenges to overcome but that is with any new project.


So you want people to pony up $12k for a pair of heads that they know nothing about? Just want to be clear here.

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