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why is a challenger longer than a cuda #1784827
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Have always wondered this,

Is it the wheelbase alone? Will drive shafts interchange?

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: Moparnut426] #1784828
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With identical engine / transmission / rear end combinations, the Barracudas have shorter drive shafts than the Challengers.

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Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1784829
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With identical engine / transmission / rear end combinations, the Barracudas has shorter drive shafts than the Challengers.




Was there a reason? Seems expensive to me to tool up 2 different Jigs for the E body line up...

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: Moparnut426] #1784830
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Back then Dodges always had a longer wheel base than a Ply. Every body style in a Dodge did. I think it went way back to when Plymouth was a cheaper car line.

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: 71birdJ68] #1784831
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Back then Dodges always had a longer wheel base than a Ply. Every body style in a Dodge did. I think it went way back to when Plymouth was a cheaper car line.




I don't buy this as I know a Roadrunner/Gtx and a Coronet/Superbee are the same. I used a Roadrunner driveshaft in a Coronet before.

Atleast the one I sold the guy was out of a 69 RR and he stuck it in a 69 Bee.....

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: 71birdJ68] #1784832
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Back then Dodges always had a longer wheel base than a Ply. Every body style in a Dodge did. I think it went way back to when Plymouth was a cheaper car line.




Is that true? Very interesting. Even the A bodies?

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: Moparnut426] #1784833
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I just googled it some and I am seeing 116 wheelbase for the 69 belvedere, road runner, and 117 inches for the coronet, bee. A 1" difference would explain being able to swap a shaft.

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1784834
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I just googled it some and I am seeing 116 wheelbase for the 69 belvedere, road runner, and 117 inches for the coronet, bee. A 1" difference would explain being able to swap a shaft.




I can see that, but I wouldn't want to put the longer one in the shorter car....

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1784835
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A 1" difference would explain being able to swap a shaft.




Yes, but it is best to keep the u-joint closer to the transmission

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: BSB67] #1784836
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It's true that Dodges traditionally had a longer wheelbase than Plymouths; that goes back to a time when a longer wheelbase was interpreted as "up-market". As was a longer/larger car.
While one can put a shorter-than-optimum driveshaft in a given car, it's hard on the splines and the rear bearing & seal in the trans.

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: topside] #1784837
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Stay on topic, not about driveshaft lengths!

So are Darts longer than Valiants?
If Dodges are longer across the model lines it does seem that Chrysler went to great lengths (pun intended!) to make this differentiation!

Very interesting...

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1784838
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Stay on topic, not about driveshaft lengths!




silly, silly you.....

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: mikemee1331] #1784839
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Dart...111" wb
Valiant...108" wb

1967-76 darts
1967-73 Valiants

Seems to be a lot of truth to this!

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1784840
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1958 Plymouth wheelbase is 118 inches

1958 Dodge wheelbase is 122 inches.

My car being a wagon, is on the longer dodge chassis.


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Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1784841
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Stay on topic, not about driveshaft lengths!





OP Question:

"Will drive shafts interchange?"

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1784842
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Dart...111" wb
Valiant...108" wb

1967-76 darts
1967-73 Valiants

Seems to be a lot of truth to this!



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Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #1784843
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The difference in the interior between the Cuda and Challenger was cut on the rear leg room of the Cuda. After an hour long drive in the back seat of a Cuda and then riding in the back seat of a Challenger made one think they were in a New Yorker with all the extra 2” of leg room!

Jim

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: BSB67] #1784844
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Quote:

Quote:

Stay on topic, not about driveshaft lengths!





OP Question:

"Will drive shafts interchange?"




Yea you're right, my bad.

Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1784845
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Challenger trunk pan is longer too - a little more room in the Challenger trunk. You can see it.


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Re: why is a challenger longer than a cuda [Re: Moparnut426] #1784846
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Quote:

Have always wondered this,

Is it the wheelbase alone? Will drive shafts interchange?




I always thought it for styling reasons to be able to use the curving shape of the main character line on the side of the Challenger and make it graceful.

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