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Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: DaveRS23] #1780718 03/18/15 08:23 PM 03/18/15 08:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe master
roe master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: I just use a turn buckle from the hardware store. Bolt one end to the head and use a long bolt to the K member on the other end. I leave about 3/4" slack between the bolt head and the K member. That way I can watch the Shaker move, but have the security of a solid stop. And there is no vibration that way, either. I like the turnbuckle idea. Which size did you use? 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: BDW] #1780719 03/18/15 10:38 PM 03/18/15 10:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,311 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,311 Prospect, PA	Home made steel turnbuckle mounted with a little slack.

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: BSB67] #1780720 03/18/15 10:53 PM 03/18/15 10:53 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,896 St. Louis, MO Blues_Cuda master
Blues_Cuda master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,896 St. Louis, MO	I always had praise for the Poly-Loc mounts. Not so much anymore after crushing a header tube on a hard launch at the track. 8464388-8093297-BarracudaHeadertube.jpg (326 downloads)

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: Blues_Cuda] #1780721 03/18/15 11:09 PM 03/18/15 11:09 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 892 USA K krw71ragtop super stock
krw71ragtop super stock K Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 892 USA	A short piece of chain from the motor mount to the frame and use the stock rubber mounts. Cheap and simple.

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: roe] #1780722 03/19/15 12:15 AM 03/19/15 12:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,013 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,013 Benton, IL.	Quote: Quote: I just use a turn buckle from the hardware store. Bolt one end to the head and use a long bolt to the K member on the other end. I leave about 3/4" slack between the bolt head and the K member. That way I can watch the Shaker move, but have the security of a solid stop. And there is no vibration that way, either. I like the turnbuckle idea. Which size did you use? Probably 5/16. I used one style on the Cuda due to tight spacing and a different style on the Dart just because I thought it looked better. Master, again and still

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: DaveRS23] #1780723 03/19/15 02:35 AM 03/19/15 02:35 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA S StealthWedge67 master
StealthWedge67 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA	Just my opinion, but personally, I think turnbuckles and chains bolted to an engine makes the engine bay look junky. Admittedly, I'm a fan of a clean look, but those things scream "band-aid" to me. I run a Moroso solid on the driver side and a stock rubber mount on the passenger. Been that way for 5 years, never had an issue. It vibrates a LITTLE more than stock mounts, but not bad, barely noticable. To be honest, I've come to think its a good thing because I can really feel the motor and feel like I'm better in tune with it. LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: StealthWedge67] #1780724 03/19/15 11:26 AM 03/19/15 11:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,013 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,013 Benton, IL.	As you can see from the pic, with power steering the turn buckle is hard to see on the Cuda. If you weren't looking for it, you probably wouldn't notice it. For a little more stealth, it could be painted black. The advantages of the turn buckles are that they are cheap (under $10), take only minutes to install, are easily adjustable, and are virtually bullet-proof. And for those that prefer more vibration, just don't balance your tires. Master, again and still

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: DaveRS23] #1780725 03/19/15 02:06 PM 03/19/15 02:06 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 348 Texas Hill Country Centerline enthusiast
Centerline enthusiast Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 348 Texas Hill Country	'64 Polara 383 4spd. 2nd owner and its a totally original car. Runs but hasn't been on the road for almost 15 years. This turnbuckle was installed in the mid-late '60s and is a perfect example of how it was done back in the day. Not pretty but it works. Car will be undergoing a complete rotisserie resto starting early this summer. 8464898-ATT_1426780376021_image.jpg (456 downloads) Centerline 64 Dodge Polara 426 Street Wedge - For when I want to go fast 99 Corvette Z-06 - For when I want to turn corners

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: StealthWedge67] #1780726 03/19/15 10:47 PM 03/19/15 10:47 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,311 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,311 Prospect, PA	Quote: Just my opinion, but personally, I think turnbuckles and chains bolted to an engine makes the engine bay look junky. Admittedly, I'm a fan of a clean look, but those things scream "band-aid" to me. I run a Moroso solid on the driver side and a stock rubber mount on the passenger. Been that way for 5 years, never had an issue. It vibrates a LITTLE more than stock mounts, but not bad, barely noticable. To be honest, I've come to think its a good thing because I can really feel the motor and feel like I'm better in tune with it. That is why mine is home made, all steel, and painted. Location matters too.

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: BSB67] #1780727 03/19/15 11:36 PM 03/19/15 11:36 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 892 USA K krw71ragtop super stock
krw71ragtop super stock K Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 892 USA	Quote: Quote: Just my opinion, but personally, I think turnbuckles and chains bolted to an engine makes the engine bay look junky. Admittedly, I'm a fan of a clean look, but those things scream "band-aid" to me. I run a Moroso solid on the driver side and a stock rubber mount on the passenger. Been that way for 5 years, never had an issue. It vibrates a LITTLE more than stock mounts, but not bad, barely noticable. To be honest, I've come to think its a good thing because I can really feel the motor and feel like I'm better in tune with it. That is why mine is home made, all steel, and painted. Location matters too. 8465496-cudaengine010.JPG (194 downloads)

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: StealthWedge67] #1780728 03/20/15 01:12 AM 03/20/15 01:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: Just my opinion, but personally, I think turnbuckles and chains bolted to an engine makes the engine bay look junky. Admittedly, I'm a fan of a clean look, but those things scream "band-aid" to me. I run a Moroso solid on the driver side and a stock rubber mount on the passenger. Been that way for 5 years, never had an issue. It vibrates a LITTLE more than stock mounts, but not bad, barely noticable. To be honest, I've come to think its a good thing because I can really feel the motor and feel like I'm better in tune with it. I pretty much agree but if you read my one post you will see it says.......I use a nice SHINY piece of chain. LoL ! I do agree and I think most will agree I try to keep my eng bay looking nice so my small 8" piece of chain had to be shiny. I have even painted the chain on some cars over the years with stainless steel paint. But to me my nice shiny chain looks fine and you can see in this pic you cant see it to easy. So when bucks is tight myself I will use a shiny peice of chain for $3 dollars instead of paying $80 or more for the torque strap. But dont get me wrong as I like the torque strap and think it looks nice. I just feel a small peice of chain will work fine as it has for years and can look good if you use a nice clean chain and not a rusty one as then I agree it will not look to nice. Ron Last edited by 383man; 03/20/15 01:15 AM.

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1780729 03/20/15 10:18 PM 03/20/15 10:18 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,342 SE PA. Q QuickBpBp master
QuickBpBp master Q Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,342 SE PA.	Quote: Quote: Quote: I definitely vote for torque strap. I tried solid motor mounts and it felt like my teeth were going to rattle out. Way more vibration and noise. I used mitey mounts and Schumacher torque strap. It was kinda pricey, but it has worked well for me. cause you only need one on the drivers side the other side leave the stock one on.... You know I have read posts where people have put a solid mount on the drivers side and a stock type rubber mount on the passenger side To me that sounds really dumb If the engine is going to transfer vibration it's going to do it through ANY solid mount even just one.Now comes the stress on the block being mounted solid on only one side would put stress on the drivers side of the block Also if you have so much vibration in the drive train your teeth are rattling you need to address your imbalance issues I have a motor plate in my car with a fore-aft limiter and a solid transmission mount without any vibration issues. Gus No it doesn't probably could do some damage with alot more HP. Ran a street car for many years that way. Zero vibrations and 60ft was mid 1.50's over 3800lbs. Stock Trans mount and stock motor mount on the otherside. No need for a Motor plate when a simple mount does the trick. IMO it's waste to make it look like it has more horsepower than it really does.... Last edited by QuickBpBp; 03/20/15 10:54 PM.

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: QuickBpBp] #1780730 03/20/15 10:55 PM 03/20/15 10:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,339 Detroit, Michigan fjr340gts pro stock
fjr340gts pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,339 Detroit, Michigan	Stock types mounts, plus use a Schumacher Torque Strap. Have it on there since 1999 with no issues. The black strap practically disappears from sight against the black K frame and black P/S pump.

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: fjr340gts] #1780731 03/21/15 12:16 AM 03/21/15 12:16 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,167 Maryland GO_Fish master
GO_Fish master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,167 Maryland	I have a solid driver side mount and a stock passenger mount on my mild 360 (300ish hp). No problems at all on street and occasional 1/4 mile runs. No bad vibration with my 268/285 cam. I have read (probably on here) that in high horsepower engines and/or cars that hook really well, it is possible to crack the mount ears off the block with a solid drivers mount. So if you're in that camp, maybe the engine plate is the way to go. My hp is too low and the car doesn't hook enough on Radial T/A's for this to be a concern to me. Scott B. "I'm a self-made man... I started with nothing, and I still have most of it!" 68 360 rusty B'cuda 'vert (GO Fish)13.59@ 98.72 mph 69 340 GTS stock 14.18@ 95.60 mph 01 5.9L Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4x4 01 3.5L 300M 16.23@ 86.97 mph

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: GO_Fish] #1780732 03/23/15 08:31 PM 03/23/15 08:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,009 Richmond Twp. Mi. Mr340 super stock
Mr340 super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,009 Richmond Twp. Mi.	here's a shot of mine. I put a piece rubber hose in the eyelet for the bolt to pass thru. absorbs some vibration. Gary 8469148-IMG_0477.JPG (312 downloads)

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: Mr340] #1780733 03/24/15 07:54 PM 03/24/15 07:54 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,707 Florida BDW OP master
BDW OP master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,707 Florida	Thanks for all the responses, ordered the Schumacher strap. Will post results when I get it in.

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: Mr340] #1780734 03/25/15 04:49 PM 03/25/15 04:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,009 Richmond Twp. Mi. Mr340 super stock
Mr340 super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,009 Richmond Twp. Mi.	here's a better shot of the mounting at the Kframe. 8470848-IMG_0498.JPG (286 downloads)

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: Mr340] #1780735 03/26/15 12:04 AM 03/26/15 12:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe master
roe master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: here's a better shot of the mounting at the Kframe. Did you make that bracket on the k frame? 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: roe] #1780736 03/26/15 08:34 AM 03/26/15 08:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,009 Richmond Twp. Mi. Mr340 super stock
Mr340 super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,009 Richmond Twp. Mi.	Quote: Quote: here's a better shot of the mounting at the Kframe. Did you make that bracket on the k frame? Yes just apiece of 2x2 angle iron, drill a couple holes and a piece of rubber btw the angle and the trnbuckle.

Re: Torque strap or solid motor mount? [Re: Mr340] #1780737 04/04/15 03:29 PM 04/04/15 03:29 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,707 Florida BDW OP master
BDW OP master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,707 Florida	I always appreciate when there's an update, so here's mine. Installed the Schumacher strap, it's a nice well designed piece. It's almost impossible to notice, powder coated black. If the heim joint and nuts where black it would be invisible. No vibration when driving, there are 2 thick rubber bushings at bottom mount, so there is some room to give/move. My hood is still off from the transmission install, and I can definitely tell the air cleaner doesn't move when I get on it now.

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