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Western Sport Special 1970 Challengers #1776567
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I am looking for more information on the Western Sport Special 1970 Challengers. Like the Challenger T/A & Challenger Deputy, these cars were a mid-model year introduction.

Some background;

Supposedly as the story goes, they were the brainchild of a view dealerships in California to be built at the LA plant for California sale. The option code for the WSS package is A91 & it was available on JH hardtop cars only. (no R/Ts, convertibles or SE models)

The A91 package is supposed to include;

Western Sport Special decals on the rear quarter panels.
A63 molding package.
Front & rear bumper guards.
Pedal dress up.
Rallye wheels with 14" white wall tires.
Remote control driver side mirror.
Rim Blow steering wheel.
Wood grain instrument panel.
Vinyl roof.

Some basic facts;

All examples known to me are coded N95 which was required for a California sale.

While the intent evidently was to have all of the WSS cars built at the LA plant, at some point, likely in May of 1970 LA stopped producing E-bodies & started producing A-bodies instead. After that point, the WSS orders were built at Hamtramck.

The earliest Scheduled Production Date (SPD) from the LA plant I have seen for these cars so far is 107 (Jan 7, 1970) & the latest one I have seen is 504. (May 4, 1970)

The earliest SPD I have seen so far from the Hamtramck plant is 603. (June 3, 1970)

I am currently aware of 69 WSS Challengers from LA & another 18 from Hamtramck.

There was an article written somewhere long ago that said no 340 WSS Challengers were built, but I am aware of four of them so far, 3 from LA & one from Hamtramck.

Does anyone have a WSS Challenger before or after the SPDs mentioned at either plant?

Does anyone have any vintage ads for these cars or dealership paperwork?

If so, I would love to hear from you.

Barry

Re: Western Sport Special 1970 Challengers [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1776568
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I have a WSS sold new in California but built in hamtramck.
Original paint, interior, drivetrain, build sheet, etc, have documentation from original owner,,,,
Didn't realize what it was until after I bought it and decoded it.
Car is currently under restoration.

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Re: Western Sport Special 1970 Challengers [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #1776570
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Signed by "Rock"

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Sticker on back of carpeting,,,,,


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Under restoration


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Wood grain, standard dash


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Rim blow wheel

Re: Western Sport Special 1970 Challengers [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #1776575
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Interesting that the gauge cluster has speedo & fuel gauges that would be typically found in a Barracuda not a '70 Challenger. Is this typical of WSSs?

What's the printed part numbers & dates on the back of the cluster?

Re: Western Sport Special 1970 Challengers [Re: 6bblgt] #1776576
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Quote:

Interesting that the gauge cluster has speedo & fuel gauges that would be typically found in a Barracuda not a '70 Challenger. Is this typical of WSSs?

What's the printed part numbers & dates on the back of the cluster?




Absolutely typical.

1970 Challengers with the standard cluster when optioned with J64 used the Barracuda Gran Coupe cluster because it was the only unit that had the mounting holes for the wood grain applique.

Re: Western Sport Special 1970 Challengers [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #1776577
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Doug,
Were the WSS decals still on the car when you bought it?

For the few original examples I have seen so far, LA seems to have put them near the rear of the rear quarter while Hamtramck seems to have put them closer to the door.

If anyone has photos of their car with the original decals in place, please post them?

Re: Western Sport Special 1970 Challengers [Re: 6bblgt] #1776578
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Click on the attachment for some old WSS ads.

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And some WSS Darts....

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Barry,
Unfortunately no decals on the quarters,,,I looked really hard for hints of them,,,couldn't find any.

Re: Western Sport Special 1970 Challengers [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #1776586
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Here is a 68 WSS Dart that was on ebay last month.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Dodge-Dart-...=true&rt=nc

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