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Re: Front wheels don't turn ! [Re: Crizila] #1769382 03/04/15 01:42 AM 03/04/15 01:42 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	I hear you Crizila, sounds like the most logical explantion to me..... I can't put much time on it during the week (work in day, baby after dinner, etc...) I sure will keep you informed ! Thanks to all the replies and ideas ! Dan

Re: Front wheels don't turn ! [Re: Wedgeman] #1769383 03/04/15 03:30 AM 03/04/15 03:30 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: I hear you Crizila, sounds like the most logical explantion to me..... I can't put much time on it during the week (work in day, baby after dinner, etc...) I sure will keep you informed ! Thanks to all the replies and ideas ! Dan 10-4 driver! Keep us tuned in. Fastest 300

Re: Front wheels don't turn ! [Re: Crizila] #1769384 03/04/15 10:02 PM 03/04/15 10:02 PM
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rickstershemi master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida	I've ran into situations where they are just tighter than I liked no matter what you did so I just turned the rotors to where they loosened up (not a street car) Rickster

Re: Front wheels don't turn ! [Re: rickstershemi] #1769385 03/04/15 10:54 PM 03/04/15 10:54 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi rowin4 master
rowin4 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi	I did the same swap years ago, mine don't spin freely either.I don't think it's to the point of loosing ET at the track though. On my 70 cuda with Wilwoods they spin like there's no pads in the calipers. I would like to hear from the mid 70 dart guys to hear how their stock disc brake units roll or don't. That would tell us if we have a problem. it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead

Re: Front wheels don't turn ! [Re: rowin4] #1769386 03/05/15 12:16 AM 03/05/15 12:16 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	Quote: I did the same swap years ago, mine don't spin freely either.I don't think it's to the point of loosing ET at the track though. On my 70 cuda with Wilwoods they spin like there's no pads in the calipers. I would like to hear from the mid 70 dart guys to hear how their stock disc brake units roll or don't. That would tell us if we have a problem. A friends has a Barracuda just like yours and mine, his front runners turn freely, he had willwood brakes on it.............. Good to see I'm not alone ! Dan

Re: Front wheels don't turn ! [Re: rickstershemi] #1769387 03/05/15 09:15 PM 03/05/15 09:15 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: I've ran into situations where they are just tighter than I liked no matter what you did so I just turned the rotors to where they loosened up (not a street car) Rickster On factory style disc brakes, the seal between the piston and the piston bore is a square cut "O" ring. Besides the obvious seal, the square cut "O" ring will deform slightly when you apply the brakes. Upon brake release, that "O" ring will pull the piston back slightly as it goes back to it's normal shape. If it has been in there for a long time, it doesn't do that so very good no mo - even though it doesn't leak. I have seen that "high drag " scenario go away with just a caliper rebuild with new "O" rings and boots. Fastest 300

Re: Front wheels don't turn ! [Re: Crizila] #1769388 03/05/15 09:20 PM 03/05/15 09:20 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	Since the calipers were bought new,Can you order a set of boot and o ring ? or you have to ship it for rebuild ? Dan

Re: Front wheels don't turn ! [Re: Wedgeman] #1769389 03/05/15 09:22 PM 03/05/15 09:22 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	what if put a round O ring ?

Re: Front wheels don't turn ! [Re: Wedgeman] #1769390 03/05/15 10:19 PM 03/05/15 10:19 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,848 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,848 MI, usa	Quote: what if put a round O ring ? The kits are about $10. I've taken rebuilds apart that were rusty and the piston stuck. As stated here Will Woods stick, I know mine do. It is reputed that the round O-rings for them are better. I'm going to try it and find out. My bet is even if they free up it won't make a difference in ET. But it's cheap so we'll see. Doug

Re: Front wheels don't turn ! [Re: dvw] #1769391 03/07/15 01:17 AM 03/07/15 01:17 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,780 Alabama Mopar-Al master
Mopar-Al master Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,780 Alabama	steel or ceramic piston cups in the calipers? Worked good at first when you first put it all together? With the bleeders open, can you apply pressure to the pedal and it comes out the bleeder? My front wheels spin like the wheel of fortune, and stop the instant I apply preesure.Everything needs to be clean, lubed , and corrosion free,

Re: Front wheels don't turn ! [Re: Mopar-Al] #1769392 03/07/15 01:21 AM 03/07/15 01:21 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	steel cup in the calipers....... They are stock '74 set up..... Dan

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