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turboing a sb,how expensive? #1765444
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I am thinking of putting a turbo or two on the truck and was wondering
what parts are available the approximate cost may to be complete.

Re: turboing a sb,how expensive? [Re: moparborn] #1765445
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Dizuster (member here) is developing turbo kits for small blocks. They should be available later this year.
Doug

Re: turboing a sb,how expensive? [Re: dvw] #1765446
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MY son put together a turbo on his 02 Mustang for under $5000. But there were some aftermarket parts (piping, intercooler etc) for that application.
You could probably use methanal (washer fluid) to cool the intake charge and save the cost and complexity of an intercooler.

Another option is a bolt on Paxton supercharger.

http://www.paxtonauto.com/product.php?id=127

Personally I do not like them, the one on the Mustang was awfully loud (not is a good way to my 50 year old ears) but it was faster than hell.

Tuning is a big concern, even with EFI it will be tough to dial in.
Good luck
Scott


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Re: turboing a sb,how expensive? [Re: moparborn] #1765447
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Depends on your fabrication skills. If you can bend pipe and weld, not much. If you have to pay somebody to do it all, it will get expensive. Re-manned turbos can be found cheap...exhaust pipes and cheap, carb mods you can do or send out... So ball park $800-$3000


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Re: turboing a sb,how expensive? [Re: finadk] #1765448
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Personally I do not like them, the one on the Mustang was awfully loud (not is a good way to my 50 year old ears) but it was faster than hell.





The turbo was loud?

Did he have the exhaust dumped or use an open blow off valve?

My hot rod had 3" straight pipes with no mufflers.

https://www.youtube.com/v/9QMuJ6Ngmfs


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The belt driven supercharger was loud. The Paxton and Vortech are essentially a turbo being driven off of a belt from the crankshaft instead of exhaust gasses.
It whined at idle but HOWLED at high RPM great on the top end but impossible to sneak home at night.
Scott


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Re: turboing a sb,how expensive? [Re: finadk] #1765450
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The belt driven supercharger was loud. The Paxton and Vortech are essentially a turbo being driven off of a belt from the crankshaft instead of exhaust gasses.
It whined at idle but HOWLED at high RPM great on the top end but impossible to sneak home at night.
Scott




I had a Paxton on a 440, no louder than a bad power steering pump. At WOT you couldn't even hear it. Turbo cars are typically quiet until you get why up in the rpms and they start to whine.

Re: turboing a sb,how expensive? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1765451
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this is a good read. pretty inexpensive for the power output. I would want the car to run faster than it does for that much effort though.
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=227729

Re: turboing a sb,how expensive? [Re: chrisf] #1765452
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parts to account for
Turbo
wastgate
blow off valve
carb or fuel injection
fuel pump
fuel pressure regulator
intercooler? or meth? or e85?
piping
headers or use flip exhaust manifolds

my turbo was $900, custom borg warner
vs racing blow off (100) and wastgate (150) (ebay grade) still good stuff
carb: stock holley with hanger18 mod's
used aeromotive fuel pressure reg with fittings (150)
fuel pump(s) walbro gsl392's 115 a piece
vs racing 4inch core intercooler (150)
misc pipe and flanges (300)
pacesetter shorty headers (150)...manifolds are free

you dont need a pipe bending just buy a pipe with combo bends if you can weld your own stuff

hop on turbomustangs.com.....tons to look at on there


78 Adventurer 150small block turbo'd 360w/Borg S475....smoke'em
Re: turboing a sb,how expensive? [Re: moparborn] #1765453
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What kind of power are you looking for? For the cost and effort there may be better bang for buck options.

Re: turboing a sb,how expensive? [Re: dodge turbo] #1765454
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headers or use flip exhaust manifolds





You can't flip the exhaust manifolds on LA, B or RB engines.

On the LA the two center exhaust ports are funky shaped. They won't seal when inverted.

B and RB manifolds will block the spark plug holes when inverted. You can't get the spark plugs in. There is one manifold that will work but I think it came off a van.


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Quote:

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headers or use flip exhaust manifolds





You can't flip the exhaust manifolds on LA, B or RB engines.

On the LA the two center exhaust ports are funky shaped. They won't seal when inverted.

B and RB manifolds will block the spark plug holes when inverted. You can't get the spark plugs in. There is one manifold that will work but I think it came off a van.




I thought Dizuster flipped his manifolds? He has a SB w/ logs facing forward. I'd think shorty headers would work on a SB as well.

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Re: turboing a sb,how expensive? [Re: feets] #1765456
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Quote:

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headers or use flip exhaust manifolds





You can't flip the exhaust manifolds on LA, B or RB engines.

On the LA the two center exhaust ports are funky shaped. They won't seal when inverted.

B and RB manifolds will block the spark plug holes when inverted. You can't get the spark plugs in. There is one manifold that will work but I think it came off a van.




mine are flipped side to side. so yes you can. not flipped upside down


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Re: turboing a sb,how expensive? [Re: dodge turbo] #1765457
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headers or use flip exhaust manifolds





You can't flip the exhaust manifolds on LA, B or RB engines.

On the LA the two center exhaust ports are funky shaped. They won't seal when inverted.

B and RB manifolds will block the spark plug holes when inverted. You can't get the spark plugs in. There is one manifold that will work but I think it came off a van.




mine are flipped side to side. so yes you can. not flipped upside down




Semantics.

Flipped generally means head over heels. You can swap some manifolds side to side but on LA engines but not on B/RB. The passenger side rear outlet will interfere with the steering box and motor mount.


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small grind on the drivers manifold and magnum manifolds work well on small blocks.

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Dizusters are swapped right to left.
Doug

Re: turboing a sb,how expensive? [Re: chrisf] #1765460
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small grind on the drivers manifold and magnum manifolds work well on small blocks.




Not so much early small port 273's, very careful placement is needed to ensure a seal. Also, I had to grind a big lump off the rear of the driver's side head to get the magnum's to fit an 87 318.


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Re: turboing a sb,how expensive? [Re: moparborn] #1765461
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There are a few ebay options for Chevy guys. They all need fabrication even for a chevy but could be adapted to a MOPAR. Might be a good place to start.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SBC-STAINLESS-ST...de4&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Small-Block-...d1b&vxp=mtr


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