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Re: What set of 426 Hemi heads to buy for street & strip?
[Re: Blakcharger440]
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02/26/15 05:47 PM
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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!
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Re: What set of 426 Hemi heads to buy for street & strip?
[Re: rowin4]
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02/26/15 06:00 PM
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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!
That's true for the most part, but if you're patient you can find some deals for hemi parts occasionally. I bought some new K1 billet hemi rods for $130 and some new MP forged 528 pistons for $200 last year. The cranks are the same as a 440 crank and those aren't too bad. I paid $350 for a new Eagle 4340 4.15" crank a couple of years ago off ebay. Now finding a block for a reasonable price, that's tricky.
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Re: What set of 426 Hemi heads to buy for street & strip?
[Re: blowndart]
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02/26/15 06:03 PM
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The cranks are the same as a 440 crank and those aren't too bad. I paid $350 for a new Eagle 4340 4.15" crank a couple of years ago off ebay. Now finding a block for a reasonable price, that's tricky.
not quite true. a 440 crank will work, but it's a 6 bolt flange for the flywheel, whereas a hemi is 8.
if you choose to use a 440 crank, you just need to keep that in mind when buying a flywheel or flex plate.
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Re: What set of 426 Hemi heads to buy for street & strip?
[Re: rowin4]
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02/26/15 06:08 PM
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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!
i also recommend tim at FHO, been dealing with him for years and he is great. just because his prices aren't listed doesn't mean they are out of line, FOR A HEMI!
you REALLY need to look into this before you commit. hemi's are ridiculously expensive, and if you don't price everything out before you start, you may find yourself in a big hole you don't want to continue digging.
no doubt some bargains are to be had out there if you are patient and look around, but when it comes to heads and valve train, you're going to drop some bucks, period. used is fine, but you have to know what your'e looking at to get some quality, in good condition parts. mismatched parts can be a mess in the valve train.
do your homework first!
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Re: What set of 426 Hemi heads to buy for street & strip?
[Re: blowndart]
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02/26/15 06:16 PM
02/26/15 06:16 PM
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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!
That's true for the most part, but if you're patient you can find some deals for hemi parts occasionally. I bought some new K1 billet hemi rods for $130 and some new MP forged 528 pistons for $200 last year. The cranks are the same as a 440 crank and those aren't too bad. I paid $350 for a new Eagle 4340 4.15" crank a couple of years ago off ebay. Now finding a block for a reasonable price, that's tricky.
Finding used/cheap cranks, rods, & pistons isn't hard. It's the topend parts that are pricy for a hemi...even used stuff. Heads, rocker assemblies, and blocks are the 3 main pieces that you will pay for. 
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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: What set of 426 Hemi heads to buy for street & strip?
[Re: mickm]
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02/26/15 06:32 PM
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The cranks are the same as a 440 crank and those aren't too bad. I paid $350 for a new Eagle 4340 4.15" crank a couple of years ago off ebay. Now finding a block for a reasonable price, that's tricky.
not quite true. a 440 crank will work, but it's a 6 bolt flange for the flywheel, whereas a hemi is 8.
if you choose to use a 440 crank, you just need to keep that in mind when buying a flywheel or flex plate.
The 6 bolt, 8 bolt doesn't really matter, just because the hemi originally had a 8 bolt doesn't make it a requirement, unless you are trying to use an 8 bolt only 172 tooth flywheel.
The big difference between a wedge crank and a Hemi crank is the size of the counterweights, Hemi pistons are heavier than Wedge pistons so if you try to use a 440 crank with a Hemi rotating assembly you will more than likely have to add $$$ mallory to get it to balance.
I get a kick out of these guys that think they can build a 572 Hemi for 440 wedge money ... 
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Re: What set of 426 Hemi heads to buy for street & strip?
[Re: mickm]
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02/26/15 07:42 PM
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The cranks are the same as a 440 crank and those aren't too bad. I paid $350 for a new Eagle 4340 4.15" crank a couple of years ago off ebay. Now finding a block for a reasonable price, that's tricky.
not quite true. a 440 crank will work, but it's a 6 bolt flange for the flywheel, whereas a hemi is 8.
if you choose to use a 440 crank, you just need to keep that in mind when buying a flywheel or flex plate.
Correct. My crank was a 6 bolt vs 8 bolt. The 440 crank may need Mallory added as well as some of them are too light on bobweight for hemi rods and pistons, but that's not too much. That's about the only difference though.
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Re: What set of 426 Hemi heads to buy for street & strip?
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
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02/26/15 07:46 PM
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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!
That's true for the most part, but if you're patient you can find some deals for hemi parts occasionally. I bought some new K1 billet hemi rods for $130 and some new MP forged 528 pistons for $200 last year. The cranks are the same as a 440 crank and those aren't too bad. I paid $350 for a new Eagle 4340 4.15" crank a couple of years ago off ebay. Now finding a block for a reasonable price, that's tricky.
Finding used/cheap cranks, rods, & pistons isn't hard. It's the topend parts that are pricy for a hemi...even used stuff. Heads, rocker assemblies, and blocks are the 3 main pieces that you will pay for.
All of the parts and prices I listed were for new parts, not used. I agree there is no cheap way out for the rocker setup or block. I don't think the heads are too bad for the flow #s. I don't know of too many wedge heads that flow up to 400 CFM for $2300.
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Re: What set of 426 Hemi heads to buy for street & strip?
[Re: JohnRR]
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02/26/15 07:49 PM
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I get a kick out of these guys that think they can build a 572 Hemi for 440 wedge money ...
Agreed, but you don't have to spend $20K+ for one either.
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Re: What set of 426 Hemi heads to buy for street & strip?
[Re: rowin4]
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02/26/15 09:04 PM
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I have had 2 cranks balanced with mallory metal for my 383 LB engines. It wasn't very cheap 30 years ago. What does it cost now? 
Kinda depends on how much they have to add. In my case, since I got such a great deal in the crank, having it added to the 440 crank was considerable less then buying a hemi specific crank including what I paid for the 440 crank.
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Re: What set of 426 Hemi heads to buy for street & strip?
[Re: rowin4]
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02/27/15 02:07 AM
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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!
I knew somebody was going to post this EXACT thing. And since you are THAT guy then all I have to say is that a person doesn't have to buy all the top dollar parts. Its my choice to buy the Edelbrocks instead of the Stage Vs so that will save some money and I believe they will be just fine for what I want.
PS and I already have priced rocker assemblies....and blocks too so you can forget mentioning that.
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Re: What set of 426 Hemi heads to buy for street & strip?
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
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02/27/15 02:10 AM
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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!
That's true for the most part, but if you're patient you can find some deals for hemi parts occasionally. I bought some new K1 billet hemi rods for $130 and some new MP forged 528 pistons for $200 last year. The cranks are the same as a 440 crank and those aren't too bad. I paid $350 for a new Eagle 4340 4.15" crank a couple of years ago off ebay. Now finding a block for a reasonable price, that's tricky.
Finding used/cheap cranks, rods, & pistons isn't hard. It's the topend parts that are pricy for a hemi...even used stuff. Heads, rocker assemblies, and blocks are the 3 main pieces that you will pay for.
Exactly and I already knew this going in. I am in no rush either. I have never implied in any of my posts that I wanted to build a Hemi on 440 money either.
Last edited by Blakcharger440; 02/27/15 02:20 AM.
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Re: What set of 426 Hemi heads to buy for street & strip?
[Re: Blakcharger440]
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02/27/15 02:40 AM
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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!
I knew somebody was going to post this EXACT thing. And since you are THAT guy then all I have to say is that a person doesn't have to buy all the top dollar parts. Its my choice to buy the Edelbrocks instead of the Stage Vs so that will save some money and I believe they will be just fine for what I want.
PS and I already have priced rocker assemblies....and blocks too so you can forget mentioning that.
Just trying to help.
I forgot to mention, don't buy, a certain brand as they have terrible service and there parts break.
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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