Re: Budget EFI fuel system suggestions - help?
[Re: plazomat]
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02/12/15 11:58 PM
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Instead of using an F150 pump, why not use the GM TBI one? and with tons of pickups and suburbans in wrecking yards that had the TBI 350 in them, you could even grab the fuel lines off one..just shorten them to suit and go from there ?
(You'd get the right fittings to screw right into the throttle body that way, plus the return line, the inline fuel filter, flex sections, etc)
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Re: Budget EFI fuel system suggestions - help?
[Re: OzHemi]
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02/15/15 03:34 PM
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Instead of using an F150 pump, why not use the GM TBI one? and with tons of pickups and suburbans in wrecking yards that had the TBI 350 in them, you could even grab the fuel lines off one..just shorten them to suit and go from there ?
(You'd get the right fittings to screw right into the throttle body that way, plus the return line, the inline fuel filter, flex sections, etc)
agree. i'd guess both the ferd pump and vette regulator are MPI. all tbi stuff is lower pressure, therefore stay with "all" tbi components. you can buy an inline pump, sorry i never remember who makes 'em. they look like the holley beer can pumps like the old commander and pro-jection used
you been to "binder planet" lots of info there on adapting and reprogramming gm computers
http://www.binderplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47254
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Re: Budget EFI fuel system suggestions - help?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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02/17/15 03:40 PM
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There is no difference in fuel pumps. The regulator controls pressure by returning the excess to the tank. Just because the pump is capable of 43psi doesn't mean it has to run at that pressure. Look up a pump for a 88 Dodge 318 TBI and a 92 Magnum. Same pump. The GM TBI has the regulator built into the back of the unit. Only the 454 one was adjustable with an allen wrench, which is the same unit Holley used for the Projection 2 bbl. Run what you have, it will work just fine.
Matt 69 Dart Swinger 340 83 W350, Megasquirted with 46RH Old news: 72 Demon street/race mobile Latest: 70 Duster backhalf car and even more
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Re: Budget EFI fuel system suggestions - help?
[Re: herkamer]
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Maybe not so with deadhead systems. But the GM TBI is well-known and can be made adjustable quite easily. There are tons of websites about these units. R.
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Re: Budget EFI fuel system suggestions - help?
[Re: dogdays]
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Correct, I should clarify that only applies on a return type system. What you are doing is essentially the setup on my W350. If I was going to do it again, I would use the Microsquirt. $369 with a wiring harness also. A few junkyard parts and connectors and you are up and running. http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/micro...ness-p-509.html
Matt 69 Dart Swinger 340 83 W350, Megasquirted with 46RH Old news: 72 Demon street/race mobile Latest: 70 Duster backhalf car and even more
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Re: Budget EFI fuel system suggestions - help?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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02/17/15 09:00 PM
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why don't you just go w/ a 5.2 magnum and M1 intake? Everything is already there and you won't have to cobble something together. Really the costs of kits have dropped so much I have no idea why somebody would want to monkey w/ pieces from this and that these days.
Well with my $100 TBI system off a junk 350, my $10 ford fuel pump, my $50 hacking of the computer so I can run either Speeduino or a megasquirt equivalent ie clone...I don't the prices of kits will ever fall far enough. Add another $50 bucks for a cheap android tablet and even have remote tuning and dashboard...
And for the prices of these Ford pumps I can run 2 in paralell and keep a spare in the trunk for less than a case of decent Canadian beer..
My money is tight - and this stuff fell into my lap - plus I can make it work....where is the fun in plug and play?
Plaz
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Re: Budget EFI fuel system suggestions - help?
[Re: plazomat]
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02/17/15 10:01 PM
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why don't you just go w/ a 5.2 magnum and M1 intake? Everything is already there and you won't have to cobble something together. Really the costs of kits have dropped so much I have no idea why somebody would want to monkey w/ pieces from this and that these days.
Well with my $100 TBI system off a junk 350, my $10 ford fuel pump, my $50 hacking of the computer so I can run either Speeduino or a megasquirt equivalent ie clone...I don't the prices of kits will ever fall far enough. Add another $50 bucks for a cheap android tablet and even have remote tuning and dashboard...
And for the prices of these Ford pumps I can run 2 in paralell and keep a spare in the trunk for less than a case of decent Canadian beer..
My money is tight - and this stuff fell into my lap - plus I can make it work....where is the fun in plug and play?
Plaz
good luck with that. you are already about half way there to a complete kit. AND you won't have any headaches. Hope you've done this before.
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Re: Budget EFI fuel system suggestions - help?
[Re: plazomat]
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Half way? I have all Senors,wiring harness, throttle body, ecu-modded, fuel pump, return style sender unit, I think I am a couple filters and fuel lines away...what am I missing? I have not done this before but lots of the internet has....headaches I expect...who doesn't get those from modding classic cars... Plaz
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Re: Budget EFI fuel system suggestions - help?
[Re: plazomat]
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02/18/15 01:38 PM
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Half way? I have all Senors,wiring harness, throttle body, ecu-modded, fuel pump, return style sender unit,
I think I am a couple filters and fuel lines away...what am I missing?
I have not done this before but lots of the internet has....headaches I expect...who doesn't get those from modding classic cars...
Plaz
He may be referring to being half way there financially.
Sometimes, people with slush funds forget what it's like to pinch pennies in order to reach a goal.
To some on this board, a $500 expense is insignificant. To others it represents 6 months (or more) of savings.
It's real easy to spend someone else's money.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon
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