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drill size for priming engine #1749820
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Hello, i went to prime my 383 this weekend and ran into a snag, removed the distributor gear and tried to prime it with my cordless and Dewalt 3/8 corded drill, both failed. What size/amp drill is everyone using to prime their engine?

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Re: drill size for priming engine [Re: ryanf] #1749821
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My old Dewalt 14.4 volt worked fine. What weight oil and how cold?

Re: drill size for priming engine [Re: ryanf] #1749822
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at least a 1/2 electric drill. a 3/8 will probably smoke after 10 seconds under load.


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at least a 1/2 electric drill. a 3/8 will probably smoke after 10 seconds under load.



I have always used a 3/8 drill never had an issue.

Re: drill size for priming engine [Re: ryanf] #1749824
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OT, turn the dampener till the slit is at TDC on the tab (#6 compression) & preoil then turn the dampener 3/4 of a turn CCW & preoil the other bank. That'll minimize the time. cut a strip of paper 17.082 for a ruler to go back CCW 3/4 of a turn. EDIT I'm assuming this is a new cam breakin & it'd be beneficial to do #8 then #6 then turn the dampener a slight bit more CCW so you are at 15 BTDC so you can time the dist & be sure to clock the intergear/rotor so you are on the OE #6 plug wire location in the cap (keeping OE order is beneficial). OE #6 might be horizontle pointing out sideways to the pass fender but I ain't sure as I do not know BB's very well

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Re: drill size for priming engine [Re: NITROUSN] #1749825
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the dewalt was a 5.8a 3/8 drill, 30w break in oil, and it was 50ish today.

Re: drill size for priming engine [Re: ryanf] #1749826
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30 weight as in straight 30 weight? If so get that crap out of there. Can you spell molasses.

Re: drill size for priming engine [Re: ryanf] #1749827
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1/2" Milwaukee , Use it with any engine oil from 5w-20 to 15w-40,,never had a problem yet

Start the drill ( 1st ) and spin the engine by hand.
Once I have oil getting to the top ,,I'll spin it with the starter with no plugs in it and no gas in the carb.

Put everything in and fire it up with no worries

Re: drill size for priming engine [Re: NITROUSN] #1749828
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yes 30w, its Brad Penn Break in oil i was recommended to use

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/bpo-009-7120

Re: drill size for priming engine [Re: ryanf] #1749829
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Did you spin it CCW?

I have a black and Decker 1.2" drill with a handle, the handle is nice as it keeps from tweaking your wrist when the oil pump fills up with oil and loads down the drill.


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yes made sure it was spinning counter clockwise, sounds like any decent 1/2 corded drill should do the trick?

Re: drill size for priming engine [Re: ryanf] #1749831
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Well, mine was the cheapest B&D they made some 20 years ago, which probably means it's better than anything from China today. BUt it's done several big and small blcoks over hte years.


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Re: drill size for priming engine [Re: ryanf] #1749832
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Been using a Sears or Craftsman 1/2 "electric/with cord" drill for years. No need to get exotic, old school worked just fine then and now......


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Re: drill size for priming engine [Re: ryanf] #1749833
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yes made sure it was spinning counter clockwise, sounds like any decent 1/2 corded drill should do the trick?


Your correct on that, be prepared for the drill motor wantng to twist your wrist when it pulls the oil into the pump the first time I use to use a Craftsman 5/8 drill to prime new motors back in the day when straight 50W racing oil was the hot ticket, it would almost make me do cartwheels when it caught the prime I ended up buying a old single electric hot plate (heat plate)to put under the oil pans to warm the 50W oil up for a while after that when it was colder than 40F outside air temps I now use 5W20Wt only for all my builds It flows quicker on start ups, especially cold start ups, it lubricates and cools as good as the thicker weight oils do


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Did you spin it CCW?




That's what I wasn't sure of. I'll be priming my 400 stroker soon and was wondering if CCW or clockwise. Also, would it be a good idea to mark the distributor in relation to the block jst to get it started. Then use a timing gun to time it correctly?

Didn't mean to highjack the thread but since this member put it on the board instead of putting a whole new thread of the same subject

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Did you spin it CCW?




That's what I wasn't sure of. I'll be priming my 400 stroker soon and was wondering if CCW or clockwise. Also, would it be a good idea to mark the distributor in relation to the block jst to get it started. Then use a timing gun to time it correctly?

Didn't mean to highjack the thread but since this member put it on the board instead of putting a whole new thread of the same subject



marking is always best but you'll either be right on or 180 off

Re: drill size for priming engine [Re: ryanf] #1749836
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You don't need to use a drill, just use a speed wrench and an extension. If the oil pump is properly lubed then the pump will prime within just a few quick spins of the wrench. I can get 60 psi of oil pressure when turning the pump by hand which is plenty to prime the engine.

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I'll be priming my 400 stroker soon. Also, would it be a good idea to mark the distributor in relation to the block jst to get it started. Then use a timing gun to time it correctly?


(1) turn dampener slit to TDC on the tab (#6 compression) which it will already be at if you left the timing gear dots at 6 and 12 0/clock. (2) (preoil CCW) (3) turn dampener CCW 3/4 of a turn (17.082" around the circuference with a measured strip of paper) (4) preoil CCW again (5) turn dampener CW forward 3/4 of a turn till the marks are at 15 BTDC (#6 compression). (6) clock intergear (anywhere)/install dist so rotor is under the #6 dist cap plug wire/terminal with the vac adv can in its normal BB position & maintaining the OE plug wire position is a good idea (clock the intergear to get it where you want it) & on a BB #6 may be sideways out to the pass fender but check on that (I ain't a BB guy). (7) turn housing slightly till the magnet is lined up with the tooth (rotor still under or close to under #6 plug wire terminal) and the can will shift phasing CW on a BB from its at rest position if it ain't close as is. (8) set reluctor gap at .008" (9) make a mark on the dampener 2&1/4" CW from the OE slit & have your dist guy set the timing to that when it fires (vac adv capped) for the cam breakin. (10) read "breakin secrets" at www.mototuneusa.com


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Re: drill size for priming engine [Re: RapidRobert] #1749838
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I used a Milwaukee 1/2" drill and it barely slowed down after it primed.
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I used a very long straight screwdriver to prime a Chevy 350 20 years ago.

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