Re: big block dual line oil systems?
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I run a single line system with a one piece pump cover, over a Melling high volume body. I have never seen the need to go to the dual system, and I have run many runs through the traps at 7800 rpm. If you look at the single swinging pickup, the total area for pulling oil isn't that big when you look it over closely. I haven't done the math, but I will bet it isn't bigger than the area of a single -12 line. The screen on the end reduces the area quite a bit. I run 20w50 Brad Penn, and I do heat up the oil well and run the motor warm running alky. The 20w50 label is misleading to a certain extent as well. The oils don't follow those numbers as well as we think, temperature wise. I have seen charts that show this, and it surprised me a bit. What ever you chose, DO NOT use a Milodon system with a two piece cover with two bolts, and a gasket. It almost cost me a race car or worse when the gasket blew in the lights! I torqued those two bolts properly, but it didn't matter. A huge chunk of gasket blew out and put me sideways. I now run two -10 lines off the front of the oil pump cover to and from a remote filter and accumulator.
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Re: big block dual line oil systems?
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I am using the Milodon dual line swinging pick up with a Mellings HV pump. I had the two piece cover on it , and the gasket failed last season just after a burnout. I was lucky the starting line tech saw the leak and waved me off! I then purchased the Milodon billet (21205) one piece cover. Mark
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Re: big block dual line oil systems?
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On my hemi I use the Milodon pump w/ the single inlet on the front. I use a stock cover on it b/c I got tired of my old remote filter mount. I'm just running a single line w/ a static pickup in a fabbed aluminum pan from 440 source...only cost about $180 if I recall correctly. Much better ground clearance than the Milodon pans for the single external line. Here's the pump I use... http://www.manciniracing.com/brbhemwedalp.htmlThis setup has worked flawlessly since 2006. Bearings look great. On my Indy headed 440 I use a Melling HV pump w/ a Milodon cover and a single external line.
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Re: big block dual line oil systems?
[Re: 440Jim]
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The B1 is and has been for a few years a single -16 line with a Wescott oil pump and a Williams pan and swinging pickup using Brad Penn 10w30. Never have had any issues with it whatsoever shifting it at 8500 when we run it out. In fact the motor is getting freshened up now and oil pump simply got cleaned and back in service. I also run a CV remote filter adapter and the large Wix filter.
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Re: big block dual line oil systems?
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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The B1 is and has been for a few years a single -16 line with a Wescott oil pump and a Williams pan and swinging pickup using Brad Penn 10w30. Never have had any issues with it whatsoever shifting it at 8500 when we run it out. In fact the motor is getting freshened up now and oil pump simply got cleaned and back in service. I also run a CV remote filter adapter and the large Wix filter.
does Wescott make the pickup you used?
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Re: big block dual line oil systems?
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No it is a modified Milodon piece.
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Re: big block dual line oil systems?
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Titan pump, dual line pick-up built into the pan. Titan pump has externally adjustable pressure settings and has a small reservoir for an oil charge to prime the pump. I had a Milodon dual line set up on my old motor, it lost it's prime too many times. New motor got the the best wet sump pump made.
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Re: big block dual line oil systems?
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Milodon dual line, Modified Milodon Super Stock pan,remote filter, Accusump, Milodon Billet pump.
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