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bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? #1739571
01/26/15 10:49 PM
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1. bigtimeauto, how much did you have Bill narrow the control arms to pull the front tires under the fender?

2. on my car, the top front shock mounts are reinforced/tied into the cage and will support coil over front suspension.
question is, would it be better to use my upper shock mounts and cut the mounts off the alterkation to allow for a longer shock/spring package, or leave it?
I thought I read the alterkation uses a short shock spring package and my car sits fairly low.

Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: John Burdine] #1739572
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Unless you really need additional travel , I'd probably stick with the Alterktion mounts and shocks.
There ain't much there travel wise , but I haven't bottomed it yet with about a hundred street miles and assorted pounding so far.

Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: tubtar] #1739573
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IMO one of the weak links with the AlterK is the lack of shock travel. Now that I said that not all cars need a ton of shock travel depends on the power level. I also would want to cut the control arms down to pull the wheels in. One of the issues on the Hot Street car was ride height, but we could not get the front lower with the "stock" alterK stuff.


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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: John Burdine] #1739574
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I believe my arms were shortened 1/2 and I use 2.25 bs rims. I do not have the short shock package.

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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: 540dust] #1739575
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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: 540dust] #1739576
01/26/15 11:59 PM
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I did mine myself I took 3/4" out of them and I use offset weld 2.0


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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: bigtimeauto] #1739577
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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: bigtimeauto] #1739578
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I have ran across a couple good deals on the Alter K front end but have passed because of the width and the short shock travel. My car is a small block street/strip car and needs all the travel I can get to make it work. On high power cars that work well it may be the best thing since pockets on bibbed overalls.

Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: justinp61] #1739579
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The Valiant has Alterkation, I think it will work well

I used 2.25 back space wheels it tucked them in nice

Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: bigdad] #1739580
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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: bigdad] #1739581
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That Valiant is way freaking cool. It should launch well and certainly be one of a kind at the drags and most cruises.

Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: dezduster] #1739582
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Thanks, yeah its not a common car for sure


Hope to have it moving under its own power this summer


Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: justinp61] #1739583
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Quote:

I have ran across a couple good deals on the Alter K front end but have passed because of the width and the short shock travel. My car is a small block street/strip car and needs all the travel I can get to make it work.




you need to start thinking out of the box. The alterkation is a great general platform to start with but like anything for a race car you need to make it work for you.


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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: bigtimeauto] #1739584
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I can't quit understand what some folks talk about.
1- It makes ur front end 120lbs lighter
2- it gives you twice the room as a stock k frame
3- comes w Brakes that are 50x better then stock disc.
4- works absolutely perfect in 99.9 % of the cars where the owners use it.
5- rack and pinion steering,spindles are awesome.
It's a no brainer and one of the best upgrades out their...locally built,customer service is great Etc etc

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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: fishy340] #1739585
01/27/15 03:14 AM
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anyone know if you can buy it without springs and shocks?

Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: John Burdine] #1739586
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Hey John.
I will sell you mine for $10grand and throw
in the Demon and all my parts for free.

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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: demon440] #1739587
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Quote:

Hey John.
I will sell you mine for $10grand and throw
in the Demon and all my parts for free.




how about $3000 and you can keep the car and parts.
so what your saying is, its not running yet. get bust man!

Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: John Burdine] #1739588
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Quote:

anyone know if you can buy it without springs and shocks?





I tried to buy it less stuff, wasn't able to but, I didn't try really hard

It was complete with brakes, etc

$5350 shipped to me


Had I done a little more research, I'd bought one from Hemi Denny

same basic thing but, looks nicer

http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=186472

And, I think its just a tad less $$ not much though



Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: bigdad] #1739589
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Wow, looks like a killer piece. Hi, Bob.


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Re: bigtimeauto / Alterkation users? [Re: sunroofgtx] #1739590
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Wow, looks like a killer piece. Hi, Bob.





Looks heavy to me...............and a 120 lbs. weight loss.........really?


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