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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Clair_Davis] #17407
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Daty,
I called Don before I left work today. He was on the phone with someone else and asked me to call in the morning.
So is his solution an in-tank pump or an external pump?
I need to figure out a belt solution also. I will not be using A/C or power steering. I did get a bracket/pulley from the dealer that takes the place of the A/C unit. I'm assuming at this point that this bracket has the same dimensions for the belt as the A/C unit would have. If that's true than I need a belt for a non-power steering situation.

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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Clair_Davis] #17408
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Changing the tensioner to running inside is a good idea, I'll see if I can make that work. thanks!

-Daty

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: 57HemiDart] #17409
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We're running an external pump. I'll post a pic of my pulley situation in the morning and we can compare, I'm going to try Clair's idea of running the tensioner the other way and see if I can get that to work.
-Daty

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: 57HemiDart] #17410
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Bob,

I'd like a pic of your pulley arrangement (esp the a/c replacement bracket). thanks!

-Daty

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17411
10/19/05 08:06 AM
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Great thread, thanks for the pics!

FWIW, you guys probably already know this, but back in August Bouchillon mentioned they have an accessory drive kit in the works...

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: ZIPPY] #17412
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No I haven't, but I have (hopefully) great news, the Durango idler pulleys are 3.5" across instead of 3" across, and with two idlers I have a whole new range of belt sizes to sacrifice. What may end up working is instead of going in/out/in/out I used the top idler inbetween the a/c and the alternator, so instead of having a .5" belt range in the tensioner I have about 2" range instead and by golly there is a good belt number in the top half of that range and will pick it up in a couple hours.

We now have a two pager thread going!

-Daty

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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17413
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SUCCESS!!!!!!!!

I found with two 99 360 Durango idler pulleys (pn 53009508) and Gates K070834 I have the tensioner about middle range, I'm so happy I can go to sleep now...
Attached is a pic of my now finished front of the motor.

-Daty

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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17414
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looks good. no power steering?


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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: patrick] #17415
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Can't use power steering with the TTI headers and mounts. The vert is manual steering anyway so it didn't concern me (that is until I tried to get a belt setup that would work).

-Daty

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17416
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What's the issue with the fuel system?
Slap a Vortec T-Rex inline fuel pump in there and install a regulator up front. Mine draws from a 3/8" pickup but you'll be fine using the stock 5/16 for your application.
What's the problem with those? I have been running mine for several years on the TT440.
Is it a returnless system?

BTW... I've been wanting to do one of those swaps. I just don't have another car (or the spare funds) to do it.
Daty, I think I've seen your fishy. I'm in Irving. Drop me a line. I'd like to see the setup.


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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: feets] #17417
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Don't have one anymore. I am switching from a carb car to an MPI car. The tank is being replaced with a sumped/baffled/stock unit, two lines out the sump; -10 to a bg mighty enduro, -8 to the front to a regulator/filter, down to the rail, out to a -06 back to the tank. Whe whole setup will run less than $1500, a bargin for all new and trouble free. The motor has the rest like rails, throttle body injectors, computors, sensors, wiring. It's a really cool system so far. I parked next to you at last years picnic, I have the old man tan slant 6 you wanted to turbocharge. You're more than welcome to come by, pm and we can figure out a time.

-Daty

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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17418
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Quote:

I have the old man tan slant 6 you wanted to turbocharge.
-Daty




He says that to everybody, Daty!

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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17419
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Why the huge fuel system? Are you planning on really stepping up that little Hemi?

The fuel pump I listed onle cost a little over $200. I've got a complete AN braided line system and spent only a fraction of what you're talking.

I thought I knew the car. It's quite nice. Parking it next to mine made it look even better.


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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17420
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I'll try to get a pic of the pulley arrangement. The non-A/C bracket isn't on the engine yet but I can mount it temporarily. I need the correct length bolts for it.

Bob

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: feets] #17421
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I'm planning for the future engine upgrades, that and the last thing I want to do is burn my motor for lack of fuel. Don is also sending lots of extra fittings and extra length on the hoses so I can cut to fit. I expect by the time I'm done to have only 1100 or so and half of that is the tank. Don said send everything back I don't use (including hoses over 6") and he'll refund the rest.

-Daty

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: 57HemiDart] #17422
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Daty,
I attached a pic of my engine with the non-A/C bracket/pulley and the alternator in place..

Bob

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: 57HemiDart] #17423
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http://www.gatespowerpro.com/Comergent/en/US/adirect/gates?cmd=catNavigate2

You may need the kd70825, and you may need to use larger Durango idler pulleys. Have you measured for a belt yet? I'd try the same routing I did on mine a few messages up, use an old belt instead of a string though, the string came up woefully short for me. Clair helped me out a lot on my belt deal, it was beating me up pretty good.

I noticed you painted the intake black, nice...

-Daty

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17424
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I'll be installing a 5.7/Tremec in an A body in the near future. Keep us updated on how it goes.

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Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17425
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Daty,
I haven't measured for a belt yet. I don't have an old belt. I know the parts manager at my local Dodge Dealer. He can probably get me an old one or let me bring a new one back if it doesn't fit.
I'll try a belt first before I buy the Durango pulleys.

Bob

Re: 5.7 Hemi in a 67 Barracuda [Re: Daty Rogers] #17426
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I didn't paint the intake black.. It's the factory black plastic intake. I'm not using that one. I want to use the Mopar Performance parts. The same stuff that's on the crate engine.

Are things flying kind of fast for you there Daty (LOL)?
I guess you are the leader in this pioneering effort here. And you're doing a good job of it.
Once I am on vacation next week, hopefully I'll get a little further along with my project.

Thanks,
Bob

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