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Re: Outdated tire questions?
[Re: poorboy]
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01/27/15 08:02 PM
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beatgoeson
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Oh dam , I guess I'll have to get a set of these babies!
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Re: Outdated tire questions?
[Re: poorboy]
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01/28/15 03:39 PM
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france
jose jones
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20 + years old,5,700 miles,no rot,look like new,pitch them ??
Yes! Unless you have jacked the car up so the weight has been off the tires most of their lives, they have been sitting in the exact positions for long periods of time have flat spotted. Each of those long term siting flat spots have deformed the belts inside the tires. Then you take those tires out on the road, and after a few miles, they return round and smooth out, but the damage is still there. Your highway speed ride creates a lot of heat which will compound the defective belt situation. I suspect you have been fortunate for the last 8- 10 years. Are you still feeling lucky?
Your tires would probably be great for a trailer queen that hides in a trailer, comes out to park on the field, do a little low speed around town driving, then go back in the trailer. To expect 20 year old tires that spend most of their lives sitting in the same place holding up a car, to go out and do highway speeds is pretty brave.
Personally, I would be changing those tires if it was my car. Gene
Years ago I bought a Viper on the East Coast that was 4 years old with under 1100 miles on it, Decided to see America and drive it home, The tires had flat spots and never went round again after setting for that much time  It was sick to need to spent apx. 1700 bucks on new Michelins But much cheaper than having one come apart trashing a 13,000 dollar hood 
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Re: Outdated tire questions?
[Re: gdonovan]
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01/28/15 10:30 PM
01/28/15 10:30 PM
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DaveRS23
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7 year old tire on a trailer, less than 100 miles later another one did exactly the same thing. You guys can run old tires all you want, but hope you don't kill somebody else.
What brand is that tire and where was it made?
Most trailer tires are junk and I'd not trust hem as far as I could throw them. Was always a huge issue when I was in the RV business.
We had new trailer tires where the air would come through the sidewalls!
Yep. That was the reason for my question. There have been quite a few posts here and on other boards about the sad situation with trailer tires the last few years. It has gotten so bad that all our trailers have regular vehicle tires, not trailer tires.
In this particular case, I'll bet that age wasn't the primary reason for the failures. Based on what I have seen the last few years, he should feel lucky that they got him that far.
Master, again and still
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Re: Outdated tire questions?
[Re: GTSDart340]
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01/29/15 01:31 AM
01/29/15 01:31 AM
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And there you have it... Just replace all the tires when you change the vehicle's battery and you'll always feel good about the ride...Just a reminder like changing the batteries in the smoke detectors when you set the clocks back every year...
So being in Arizona, I'm changing my tires every 8 to 24 months?   ................................ So then I would still have 12 yr old tires the same as the 12 yr old restoration battery from the former New Castle Battery ( actualy two of their batteries since 1992 ) that is still works like it did ten yrs ago ?
Silly is'nt it...Just trying to prove a point... I understand exactly what the message is that's getting conveyed here but picking out a year for every tire out there to be DOA probably is'nt the best solution either....There's just too many factors involved...
Last week I had a shop try to sell us a four tire set and two of them were from 2011...How many customers buy "new" tires and don't even look at the dates ??? Needless to say we did'nt take those...
And you can't buy cheap tires and complain about how they performed...
I've paid more for a good trailer tire than what you could buy the "combo" deal {tire and new rim} knowing the outcome would be better than that route...Vehicle tires are no different
Trouble is in this day and age you really can't identify a good tire just by the manufacturer anymore...
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Re: Outdated tire questions?
[Re: screamindriver]
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01/29/15 04:21 AM
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kentj340
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So what would an automotive engineer say about old tires? "...tires will crack and become dry-rotted long before they wear out. This will occur faster when exposed to the UV effect of the sun. Since your (car) is under a carport, it is very possible that the tires on one side are baking in direct sunlight for a few hours a day. Those tires will deteriorate first. "What I like to do is to visually inspect the sidewalls and in between the treads for cracking. I also use my finger to depress the tread to see how pliable it is. A new tire will be very soft, while an aged one will be very hard and not depress. You will eventually notice this in the ride quality and level of tire noise. "At eight years, I would suggest a new set of tires. You may want to invest in tire covers like those used on recreational vehicles to protect the new tires from direct sunlight and the impact it has on the rubber." This article by Ray Bohacz originally appeared in the September, 2008 issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines, archived on the web here: http://www.hemmings.com/search_content/?0=0&bylineFacet=Ray Bohacz&sort=display_date_desc&page_size=15&start=150 Get out those fingers and depress.
If you don't see two dolphins, you need a vacation.
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Re: Outdated tire questions?
[Re: DaveRS23]
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01/29/15 10:59 AM
01/29/15 10:59 AM
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torredcuda
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We use a lot of used tires on our stuff and I see a lot more failures on cheap import tires than I have ever seen on aged tires. Since matching doesn't matter as much on my trailers, I usually buy old spares at the pick-a-part yards for them. Full tread tires that haven't seen much sun and are often 10, 12, 15 years old or older. I don't have any more problems out of 15+ year old tires than I do out of 3 or 4 year old tires.
But on the newer cheap import tires, they often bust cords or throw their treads while still having 1/2 tread or so on our cars. Just plain poor construction.
So in my experience, the original construction of the tire is far, far more important than the age of the tire.
P.S. The number of tires that I mount that are not round is a real shocker. Sounds weird, but is true. Another example of poor construction.
 I had a chepa set of tires on my Neon years ago and had three flats, one in the sidewall=junk, in 6 months. I`ve run old tires for years and never had a problem so it`s not just the age of the tire as brand new ones can fail too, you can`t make everything 100% safe! Also most classic cars are garage kept limiting time exposed to sun which I would think increase life? I`ll risk it. Of course the news media never blows anything out of proportion. 
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Re: Outdated tire questions?
[Re: screamindriver]
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01/29/15 11:15 AM
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torredcuda
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And there you have it... Just replace all the tires when you change the vehicle's battery and you'll always feel good about the ride...Just a reminder like changing the batteries in the smoke detectors when you set the clocks back every year...
Just sold my `04 ram with the original battery still working fine. How about your brakes, are they important? If they are you would need to change any rubber brake lines also, ditto fuel lines and anything else rubber that could cause a breakdown in the middle of a busy highway. Up here in the rust belt steel lines rust so I guess all the steel lines in a vehicle should also be replaced at the same intervals - see where this is going?
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Re: Outdated tire questions?
[Re: Kern Dog]
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01/29/15 05:53 PM
01/29/15 05:53 PM
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b54406barrel
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Has China branched out to making passenger car tires yet? I can only imagine a huge wave of impoverished motorists running around with Harbor Freight tires.
We had a guy that brought in a set of tires for us to mount up, in the early '70's that were made in Israel. We only read that because they were a brand Le-something we'd never heard of. He ran 'em for 30,000 miles, no issues.
Not that I'm going to endorse running bad tires but, over the years I have had flats, blowouts & tires shred completely off the rim at well over 100 mph. Never crashed a car yet because of it. Paying attention when you're driving is always a plus.
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