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1971 Challenger data plate info #1727123
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Looking for a definitive answer to what does the letter "M" in the "Order Number" on the broadcast sheet designate? The VIN is JH23H1B1002xx

Order Number is 802/M00126 This number is also on one of the data plates.

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Looking for a definitive answer to what does the letter "M" in the "Order Number" on the broadcast sheet designate? The VIN is JH23H1B1002xx

Order Number is 802/M00126 This number is also on one of the data plates.





802 is the Scheduled Production Date. Date is was "scheduled" to be made. Many times not the actual date. And many time not very close to actual date.

Vehicle Order Numbers are somewhat of a mystery. Not sure if anyone has definitive factory decoding information on those. But there is some deductive reasoning that is solid and some not so solid to explaining if there are meaning behind certain prefix's and number sequences.

All that said. Your challenger has a low vin and early SPD. I think there are some clues to VON's starting with M.

With the early VIN and SPD, possibility of Pilot car. But need more info to solidify that. Some have said they have seen sunroof cars have M VON's, but most say G is for Sunroof cars.

Here's a list of what MMC Detroit believes the VON's stand for: http://www.mmcdetroit.com/VON/

There are people here on Moparts that may have better information than that on certain models and years, that may help you more.

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MMC shows:
M0**** Y16 SALES BANK/SHOW CAR (but every "M0xxxx" VON is NOT a "SHOW CAR", they are all "SALES BANK")

801 SPD = "PILOT" car (pre-production)
802 SPD = "SHOW" car (often referred to as "PROMO")

Chrysler Corp. called them "DEALER ANNOUNCEMENT UNIT"

Is it EV2 - "HEMI orange metallic"? Does it have a SHAKER hood? Is N96 on the fender tag? Broadcast sheet would indicate when it was built, it wasn't 802 (Sunday August 2, 1970).

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Typically the cars early in the year with M VONs are Show Car/ Sales Bank units. Usually used for car shows, advertising photos or some other promotional use.

Later on the year an M just meant Sales Bank - Y16.

The letters always tie in to the Y codes, so what are the Y codes on your broadcast sheet?

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Thank you to those that have responded. Looks like the information
submitted by you readers is nearly the same. Appears the car was a show car for a dealership early on. It is an early build car. The seller was the original owner family I purchased it from 7 Yrs ago. They indicated it was promoted in the Seattle Time and Post Intelligencer news papers by the dealership as the new style Dodge Challenger. Although they were able to purchase the car they had to agree to allow 2 dealerships to use the car in their show rooms for 10 days each before they could get possession of it.
It appears they used the car to promote both features of the SE and RT.

Unfortunately they did not get a copy of the newspaper ads. The car is not an RT however it has a lot of the RT options and other add on's i.e.: 340- 4bbl/automatic,26" radiator, 15" Rally wheels, P/S,Power front disc brakes, vinyl top, luggage rack, hounds tooth interior, console, Rally dash, light package, dual exhaust/tips, sway bars, wood grain steering wheel.
Color is FJ6 Green with 6J stripe.
Very nice original car and the "Y" code is 16 as you folks noted. There is also a "U" in the "Y" box under "Build for U-C-I"

Thanks again all for the help.

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The U is 'Built for US sale'.

At the end of line two on your broadcast sheet, is anything stamped in the 'Y Misc.' box?

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A Challenger 340 Formal Roof Package (A78 code) car.

Extremely cool factor car that makes you think. Awesome car! Green Go paint with bright green wide strip w/o R/T on it.

IIRC, there was a "Barn Find" FJ6 green stripe Challenger 340 picture and short story in a magazine years ago. Mopar Muscle I think?

Could you post pictures of it? It should be a really striking looking car.

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Hello all,
In reply to the question of: Is there anything stamped in the "Y" box on line 2.
No nothing in the "Y" box;.

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Cannot get the photo's to post here. If anyone is interested in the photos of the car send your email address and I will forward a couple to you.
Thanks folks

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Yes, I think someone filled out the order sheet on that thing in good taste.

Oh, those '71 Challengers, they sure ring the bell.


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Cool looking car!!!! I have a 340 71 RT that is very, very close to the Vin. It has to be related, LOL. Can't quite tell for sure, as the last three digits are covered. Mine is similar to the Jh23H1B100xxx that what the tag might be.

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Yes, I think someone filled out the order sheet on that thing in good taste.

Oh, those '71 Challengers, they sure ring the bell.




Like I thought...

A flat out striking looking car.

That would be a very cool car to take to show and just listen to passer-by's. That car will completely fake out most Mopar people.

Most will think:
  • It's a R/T.
  • It's a S/E
  • The stripe is wrong color or aftermarket
  • The stripe is missing the R/T letters.
  • Someone took off the dual scoop hood.
  • Someone put a 340 in a 318 car since it's got a flat hood

And all those things are incorrect. The car would really educate people on 71 Challenger's that are willing to learn and listen.

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Cool looking car!!!! I have a 340 71 RT that is very, very close to the Vin. It has to be related, LOL. Can't quite tell for sure, as the last three digits are covered. Mine is similar to the Jh23H1B100xxx that what the tag might be.




Originally from Washington area too?

What's the VON and fender tag look like on yours?

JH23H1B100xxx would be a Challenger like this FJ6 one, not Challenger R/T. JH = Challenger. JS = Challenger R/T

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Hi folks,
First I want to thank 6bblgt for helping me by posting the photo's for me. I was not able to get them to post, guess I'm too old to know how to effectively complete some of this download stuff.

The VON is 802 and the VIN ends in 1002XX
The last two digits are fairly low as well.6bblgt blanked the last 3 out for me(thanks for doing that)

Thanks to all of you for the positive comments on what the car is. I had considered selling it to help defray the cost of a newer 392 hemi Shaker Challenger but am finding it hard to let this one go. I do like the car color except for the stripe. You might imagine my dismay when the stripe arrived. I looked up the stripe color from the code on the build sheet and found it is Chartreuse. I had not realized what that color really was until it arrived. Double checked the code and was correct so I thought the supplier must have made a fatal error but not to be. My first thoughts after installation were this stripe is uglier than my sister. Now several years later I am Okay with it. I guess old age mellows us out some.

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Really how could you sell a 1971 Challenger that looks like your car. New Challengers don't have the WOW feeling when looking at this 1971 Challenger. People would kill to have that color with that color of stripe on a Challenger.

Mccannix also bought a 340 1971 Challenger flat hood car new. He owned it for about 3 to 4 weeks until the car was kind of rearranged. I like that sleeper look with the flat hood. My 1971 Convertible Challenger has a flat hood and I kind of like it. I guess I am tired of every E Body having a Shaker hood.

Thanks for Posting those Pictures Dan.

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