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acetone in da gas????? #17225
09/09/05 02:38 PM
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has anybody really had any luck with acetone in their gas? as fast as the stuff evaporates you would be lucky to get it into yer tank on a hot day.theory sounds good behind it, better combustion is what we all strive for. but i need to have someone or many someone's say that it really does make a difference. oh yeah wouldent it be nice to get better mileage with an additive that cheap.

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Re: assatone in da gas????? #17226
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not here.

But a few years go I read about some deal that uses platinum as a catalyst to combustion to increase fuel mileage. Never heard about it since.

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I use Ethos FR and it seems to help in many ways, most notibly fuel economy and less pollutants. I stumbled across it when trying to get my Dakota through DEQ a few years back. It worked for that slick as snot. http://www.ethosnw.com/


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I tried it a few months ago in my daily driver, a 2003 Nissan Maxima. Did not make any difference at all.

Re: acetone in da gas????? [Re: DUSTR71] #17229
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Acetone while being very volital (sp) it also evaporates very quickly. IMO if it is going to help it would have to be used very soon or it would be gone.


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Re: acetone in da gas????? [Re: MoparforLife] #17230
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Yep

tried it in the 77 lean burn 2-3 mpg better. I'm thiking it cools the fuel charge going thru the venturis on the carb. also pulls out water in the fuel. Haven't tried it in my FI honda but i,m going too.

I use the 1 oz per 10 gallons. I add 1 oz to a gallon jug then dump it into the tank and add the other 9 gallons. Dumping straight i'd agree it evaporate before it his the bottom of the neck.

google it its all over the net.


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I've only heard it touted as raising octane. I don't think there's much arguing that-it's pretty much proven fact as far as I know. I used it in the late 90's in a turbo buick I had. I stopped because it was kinda expensive.


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There were a couple of things in the article which I don't agree with. The author states that a 4 cyl. engine has more time to burn the fuel/air mix than a 6 or 8 cyl engine because it has fewer cylinders.The fuel/air is going to burn at the same rate regardless of the number of cylinders.That cylinder doing the burning doesn't know how many others are connected to the crankshaft be it 1 or 7.He also says that the acetone molecules -physically- shake up the gasoline molecules.They may chemically vaporize them or aid in combustion in some way,but physically shake them?I'd like to see some more hard,independant test info before totally buying into the theory.Remember the old saying"If it sounds too good to be true,it probably is".

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I've only heard it touted as raising octane. I don't think there's much arguing that-it's pretty much proven fact as far as I know. I used it in the late 90's in a turbo buick I had. I stopped because it was kinda expensive.




At 1 oz per 10 gallons it'll do nothing for raising octane, maybe at 1 gallon per tankful though.

The only possible way acetone could improve mileage is if you had a dirty fuel system and it helped clean it out. I tried it in my daily driver and it did nothing. In fact other than the rather ill informed website posted and it's adherents there appears to be no reputable support for this idea. Hmm, that prior sentance implies the website and it's adherents are reputable, I did not imply that in case anyone is wondering.

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I'm using it in my ramcharger, 318 TBI. I have only used 20 gals of fuel so far. But it has smoothed the idle and running of the motor. The xhaust smells much better also. I think Some of the people use to much or not enuff. I use 2 oz per 10 gals. of gas. On yahoo search I found some articles stating it helps for a more complete burn of the fuel. Does it, who knows. On RCC, some guy's have used it for a while have seen noticeable improvements.

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I finally tried it at 2oz per 10 gal. of gas in my 94 4.0L Ford Explorer. Within 10 minutes of running it, the idle smoothed out, and I began to notice that the motor had more power taking off from a stop. Also, the habitual ping that the motor had when accelerating under load went away completely. I've noticed some better gas mileage, but I haven't determined the amount of increase yet. Overall, it has definitely helped the 100K motor run better though, that is for sure.

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Yes Acetone and Xylene will both increase octane, cool the mixture and increase efficiency the burn by streaching out the carbon links to the hydrocarbons and allow more inflitration of the Oxygen, if you really want add 1-25 OXYGEN GAS ALSO AND IT WILL BRING THE AEDIBATIC HEAT OF COMBUSTION WAY UP AND THEREFORE MORE POWER PER GIVEN VOLUME OF INTKE CHARGE. ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL. 10% ALCOHOL AND 5% ACETONE AND 5% XYLENE MAKES A NICE BREW YOU CAN BUBBLE XYLENE THROUGH GLYCRINE AND NITRIC ACID AND BREW YOUR OWN LOW END NITROMETHANE AND MIX 10% with the gas.
acetone, alcohol , xylene and nitric acid and glycerine all cost way more than plain hightest so the gains would be a wash out cost wise and also try to avoid blowing yourself up.
ive been bubbling octane through Hudrogen gas and forming a solid tri hydrogen octane solid which will give off gas when inmmersen in hydrogen peroxide and provide the free oxygen to burn the Hydrogen, but I dont recommend you kids try this at home . it releases power beyond what a compressed CNG cylinder can hold (boom)

but does rrun a lawnmowner on water and peroxide from the drug store.

Re: acetone in da gas????? [Re: HemiGreg] #17238
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We have about 11 million gallons of Naptha at work right now so I decided to take a sample. I added 2 gallons to a tank full of gas and my car got a little over 6 miles more per gallon. I have a digital gauge that calculates the mileage for me so its real easy. I didnt notice the car running any better or worse, just an increase in the mileage. I dont know what kind of long term effect it would have on the engine but I would imagine it would tend to run a little lean. Not to mention, Naptha smells like a turd.

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I just picked up a bottle of acetone at CVS so we'll see.

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Doesn't acetone eat rubber components in the fuel system?

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Don't know about that but it sure will dry hands and burn if you get it in your eyes!

Re: acetone in da gas????? [Re: MPerry] #17242
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ive used acetone in my 5.2L FI dakota before and it has the computer reprogram for hot tuning with regular gas. I was adding 3 oz acetone per 10 gallonsof regular gas and it sure sounded better and idles smoother and felt like rfeal good premium gas. and th e gas milage was indeed a fiar spot better. id say it works. and i got a 16 oz bottle for 5 bucks, id say that prolly makes up for the difference between regula;r and premium and crappy or better mileage after its all used.

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I use Toluene. It's 116 octane. $2.10 a gallon when purchased in 55 gal. drum & delivered to my house. I put 16 oz. per gallon in my 69 Superbee 383 thats 10 1/2 to 1 compression. Raises the octane of Sunoco 94 two points & it's enough to take away all pinging , better idle (solid lifter comp. cams 284 duration .495 lift), better throttle response.

As for attacking rubber parts I've not had any problem in 3 years & I leave it in my Bee all winter. May be a good idea to run it near empty b4 you store it for winter & tank up with just plain old gas.

Also Indy cars run on 80% toluene & 20% Heptane.
The Heptane is just used as a filler. It has no ocatne value.

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Yes Acetone and Xylene will both increase octane, cool the mixture and increase efficiency the burn by streaching out the carbon links to the hydrocarbons and allow more inflitration of the Oxygen, if you really want add 1-25 OXYGEN GAS ALSO AND IT WILL BRING THE AEDIBATIC HEAT OF COMBUSTION WAY UP AND THEREFORE MORE POWER PER GIVEN VOLUME OF INTKE CHARGE. ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL. 10% ALCOHOL AND 5% ACETONE AND 5% XYLENE MAKES A NICE BREW YOU CAN BUBBLE XYLENE THROUGH GLYCRINE AND NITRIC ACID AND BREW YOUR OWN LOW END NITROMETHANE AND MIX 10% with the gas.
acetone, alcohol , xylene and nitric acid and glycerine all cost way more than plain hightest so the gains would be a wash out cost wise and also try to avoid blowing yourself up.
ive been bubbling octane through Hudrogen gas and forming a solid tri hydrogen octane solid which will give off gas when inmmersen in hydrogen peroxide and provide the free oxygen to burn the Hydrogen, but I dont recommend you kids try this at home . it releases power beyond what a compressed CNG cylinder can hold (boom)

but does rrun a lawnmowner on water and peroxide from the drug store.




Hemi greg am I right to assume that acetone does not bring any addtional oxygen to the fuel mix other than what it burns itself? Been about 10 years since I had a chem class so try not to go over my head to bad.


There was artcile and test in Sport Comapct car 2 months ago on tolulene and yes it did raise octane about 3 points and was cost effective. I ll try and find it its not on the website I dont think.


EDIT: I have been a 10% Isopronal alcohol pro since I was 16.



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