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4 speed pedals uneven??? #172198 12/21/08 12:36 PM 12/21/08 12:36 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 94 Ontario, Canada 6 6pktgo OP member
6pktgo OP member 6 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 94 Ontario, Canada	I converted a 70 Charger from a power brake/automatic console to a power brake 4 speed and my clutch pedal is about 2 1/2 inches higher then my brake. I used the original booster & m/c (rebiult) & a set of 70 pedals. Is this normal or have i done something wrong??? Any Help would be great.

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: 6pktgo] #172199 12/21/08 12:46 PM 12/21/08 12:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,978 Bethel Ct A AdamR master
AdamR master A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,978 Bethel Ct	Its normal for them not to sit even, I dont know about 2.5" difference though.

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: AdamR] #172200 12/21/08 12:54 PM 12/21/08 12:54 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,327 Glendale, AZ 6 69L78Nova Banned. Forever.
69L78Nova Banned. Forever. 6 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,327 Glendale, AZ	On a power brake car, the brake pedal sits much lower than the clutch pedal 1969 Nova 454/M21/3.31 Mild mid-11 second weekend cruiser 1994 F150 XLT Super Cab 2WD 5.0/4R70W/3.55 (Daily driver)

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: 69L78Nova] #172201 12/21/08 12:56 PM 12/21/08 12:56 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,822 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,822 Kirkland, Washington	Quote: On a power brake car, the brake pedal sits much lower than the clutch pedal Mine does too. Although a friend's challenger does not-- PB/4speed car. Don't know why though.

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #172202 12/21/08 02:31 PM 12/21/08 02:31 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 94 Ontario, Canada 6 6pktgo OP member
6pktgo OP member 6 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 94 Ontario, Canada	Is there a different brake pedal linkage for a 70 or maybe a different bracket of sorts? Anyone have a 68 or 69 B Body that knows or maybe a 71? Thanks Again Moparts

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: 6pktgo] #172203 12/21/08 02:47 PM 12/21/08 02:47 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora A ademon master
ademon master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	My 68 RR 4-speed, power disc brake car, brake pedal sits much lower than the clutch pedal, comes in very handy when on a steep hill for holding brake and also giving a bit of throttle as i let of the clutch 4892949-ebay015.jpg (276 downloads)

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: ademon] #172204 12/21/08 03:50 PM 12/21/08 03:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 9,066 Eugene, Oregon M minivan master
minivan master M Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 9,066 Eugene, Oregon	I believe the lower brake pedal came with the advent of disc brakes.. I remember first seeing them when these cars were new and discs became more of a standard than an option, and thinking something was wrong also.... Just my 2 cents..

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: minivan] #172205 12/21/08 04:02 PM 12/21/08 04:02 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 94 Ontario, Canada 6 6pktgo OP member
6pktgo OP member 6 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 94 Ontario, Canada	ALL 2 cents are GREATLY appreciated & worth every bit ,as i`m about to put the column in place and every part has been meticulously restored to original condition or very close and it makes getting at some other parts very difficult. Thanks Again

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: 6pktgo] #172206 12/21/08 04:47 PM 12/21/08 04:47 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,463 Rome, PA Ryan_340 master
Ryan_340 master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,463 Rome, PA	In my old '74 Power Wagon the clutch pedal sits a little lower than the brake pedal. 1972 Power Wagon W100 1973 Power Wagon W200 1971 Duster 1972 Dart Swinger 3-1972 Demons

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: Ryan_340] #172207 12/21/08 11:41 PM 12/21/08 11:41 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 94 Ontario, Canada 6 6pktgo OP member
6pktgo OP member 6 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 94 Ontario, Canada	Anyone have a untouched big block 70 Charger,Road Runner,Super Bee with a pic of the pedals ??

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: 6pktgo] #172208 12/21/08 11:46 PM 12/21/08 11:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 693 Coronado, CA G go-fish mopar
go-fish mopar G Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 693 Coronado, CA	Thank God it's not just my car. I thought something was goofy about the pedals. I'm going to have to fix it though. Can't stand it. 70 'cuda: ProCharged 408, Tremec 5 speed, S60,triangulated 4 link, Hydroboost and Wilwoods

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: go-fish] #172209 12/22/08 01:29 AM 12/22/08 01:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,570 San Francisco Ca SCATPK master
SCATPK master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,570 San Francisco Ca	My 68 gtx is a factory 4spd with power disc brake option and the pedals sit perfectly level to each other. I have since converted it to manual brakes and the pedals are still nice, straight and level. Sounds like some of you guys have some issues. 4894363-Mvc-009f_24690758(Large)(2).jpg (329 downloads)

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: SCATPK] #172210 12/22/08 09:33 AM 12/22/08 09:33 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 94 Ontario, Canada 6 6pktgo OP member
6pktgo OP member 6 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 94 Ontario, Canada	Now i REALLY DON`T want to reinstall the column til i get this fixed !!! Anyone know about a different pedal rod maybe?

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: SCATPK] #172211 12/22/08 11:06 AM 12/22/08 11:06 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora A ademon master
ademon master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	Quote: My 68 gtx is a factory 4spd with power disc brake option and the pedals sit perfectly level to each other. I have since converted it to manual brakes and the pedals are still nice, straight and level. Sounds like some of you guys have some issues. I cant imagine my brake pedal as high as my clutch pedal! I can't remember a car or truck including large trucks that i have driven where the brake pedal wasn't lower than the clutch, sometimes just a little bit but in those cases the clutch pedal was almost even with the throttle pedal, in other cases like my 68 RR with power front disc the clutch pedal is much higher than the gas pedal and having the brake pedal just a bit higher than the gas pedal makes it much smoother to drive, like taking off on a hill, i just have to move my foot from side to side, not lift my whole leg. Besides the clutch pedal rests at the rubber bumper on its stop, and the brake rests on its stop which includes the brake switch so i dont think their much adjustment

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: ademon] #172212 12/22/08 11:17 AM 12/22/08 11:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,285 Ohio 6 64dodge572 master
64dodge572 master 6 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,285 Ohio	Power brake pedal (with correct pivot linkage) will sit lower than the clutch. Manual brakes use a straight push rod and will be closer to even with the clutch pedal. Brewers Performance Inc. 4-speed transmission and parts specialists PH 937-947-4416 or 937-698-4259 FAX 937-947-4419 www.brewersperformance.com

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: ademon] #172213 12/22/08 11:29 AM 12/22/08 11:29 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 178 Hamburg - Germany S SuperRob member
SuperRob member S Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 178 Hamburg - Germany	Quote: My 68 RR 4-speed, power disc brake car, brake pedal sits much lower than the clutch pedal, comes in very handy when on a steep hill for holding brake and also giving a bit of throttle as i let of the clutch same here, car is a 69 bee

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: SuperRob] #172214 12/22/08 01:58 PM 12/22/08 01:58 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,831 east side of Ohio basketcase master
basketcase master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,831 east side of Ohio	I've had a '68 Charger,and two '69 road runners, all manual drums. all the brake pedals sat lower than the clutch, and so does my '85 D100 w/ power disc. Dave 1981 Dodge D150 360 auto

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: basketcase] #172215 12/22/08 02:58 PM 12/22/08 02:58 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,179 California mickm master
mickm master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,179 California	mine is a conversion, so it is hard to use it as an example. but i assume the pedal assembly is stock? i don't know if there is anyone reproducing those. mine is manual drum, and the pedals sit almost dead even, exactly the way i like it

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: mickm] #172216 12/22/08 05:17 PM 12/22/08 05:17 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 94 Ontario, Canada 6 6pktgo OP member
6pktgo OP member 6 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 94 Ontario, Canada	Pedal assembly (for a 70 B Body, but will fit 68&69 also),linkage (was in the car),power brake booster and m/c are all original,just restored, even down to the right clutch pedal with the hole (only found on the 70 pedal) for the neutral safety switch.

Re: 4 speed pedals uneven??? [Re: 6pktgo] #172217 12/22/08 08:53 PM 12/22/08 08:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,570 San Francisco Ca SCATPK master
SCATPK master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,570 San Francisco Ca	Also restored a 69.5 bird with 4spd a few years back with manual drum brakes and the pedals were level with eachother on that car as well.

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