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'73 440 Motor with a Forged Crank? #1720549
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I have one. Could this have come from a truck or motorhome? It has a harmonic balancer that is definitely not for a cast crank motor. The motor has not been taken apart, except that someone has taken the motor mounts and exhaust manifolds.

Re: '73 440 Motor with a Forged Crank? [Re: 3_RTs] #1720550
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What are the numbers on the top pad?

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thick balancer would point towards a cast crank

Re: '73 440 Motor with a Forged Crank? [Re: 3_RTs] #1720552
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i had a motorhome 440 with steel crank,sixpack rods and 213 heads

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I have one. Could this have come from a truck or motorhome? It has a harmonic balancer that is definitely not for a cast crank motor. The motor has not been taken apart, except that someone has taken the motor mounts and exhaust manifolds.





NO , the cast crank was phased in during the 73 model year , I had a non HP 440 -4 wit ha forged crank and LY rods.

Re: '73 440 Motor with a Forged Crank? [Re: Fanning] #1720554
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The numbers on the top pad are J440 and 11 21. There's nothing else there.

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I just tore down a J 440 and it had a forged crank also.

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I believe the transition to cast was in April, '73...

Balancer tells the story...

What's the block casting date???

Re: '73 440 Motor with a Forged Crank? [Re: 3_RTs] #1720557
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I pulled a steel crank 440 out of a '73 Imperial, and have pulled 4 or 5 out of trucks and motorhomes up thru '75 with steel cranks. They all had heavy rods.

Re: '73 440 Motor with a Forged Crank? [Re: vdriver] #1720558
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Chrysler had a tendency to use up what was laying around. If someone found a skid load of 440 cranks laying around in a warehouse someplace, they would have put them in the next batch of motors.
Such was reportedly the case of the 6 pack crank and rods being used after the cast cranks were originally being installed.

By the mid 70s, there weren't a lot of 440s being installed in anything. Chrysler would built motors bu batch loads, 440s this week, 400 next week and so on (time frames used as a reference only) Then as the specific motor was ordered, someone went and picked one up from the available batch (in simple terms) and it was installed. A batch of motors could have been built and sitting for a while before a new batch was run.

This should get the BS flowing! Gene

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I've got two 73 motorhome 440's each with one 213 head one 902 head.one set with cooling holes small plugs,one set with regular plugs no cooling holes.strange

Re: '73 440 Motor with a Forged Crank? [Re: poorboy] #1720560
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Guess it could be possible in a heavy duty application. A few years ago my old boss had a huge 73 motor home he tried selling me for the motor he claimed was a 440, but I discovered it actually was a 413 with a steel crank.


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Re: '73 440 Motor with a Forged Crank? [Re: G-Money1320] #1720561
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Any big block with a manual trans, right up to when they quit building them will have a steel crank in it. No cast crank manuals.

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Re: '73 440 Motor with a Forged Crank? [Re: 3_RTs] #1720562
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The numbers on the top pad are J440 and 11 21. There's nothing else there.




73 440 assembled 11/21/72 , should have had a forged crank , nothing special or secert about it .

Re: '73 440 Motor with a Forged Crank? [Re: JohnRR] #1720563
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Cast crank started in mid-73.


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All the '73's I have seen in the field had steel cranks, I have one under the bench now. That doesn't mean no cast cranks 440's were made in '73.

I might have just lucked out in my area.




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Re: '73 440 Motor with a Forged Crank? [Re: gdonovan] #1720565
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All '73 440 HP motors got forged cranks, the STD 440 could have either cast or forged at random.

This is the subject of TSB 09-01-73C dated October 11, 1972:
"The standard 440 4-barrel engine will be built with either a forged or cast crankshaft. The cast crankshaft can be identified a different front vibration damper and a stamped letter "E" below the build date on the cylinder block identification pad."


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