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Re: caltrac
[Re: cesar perez]
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12/23/14 01:57 AM
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I like sliders, mono leaf and regular caltracs. I also like real good shocks to control them, like a DA afco or Santhuff.
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Re: caltrac
[Re: lockjaw-express]
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12/23/14 12:57 PM
12/23/14 12:57 PM
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Yes, I talked to John Calvert, and the Mono-leaf would work better, but I will try the SS springs since I do drive the car on the street once in a while.
The rules/inspections are a number issues with Hose clamps, grade 8 bolts and large washers for the battery box, fuel cell, and etc...
I am using SS springs myself with CT this yr for the 1st time.Good luck!
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Re: caltrac
[Re: Thumperdart]
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12/23/14 01:36 PM
12/23/14 01:36 PM
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Yes, I talked to John Calvert, and the Mono-leaf would work better, but I will try the SS springs since I do drive the car on the street once in a while.
The rules/inspections are a number issues with Hose clamps, grade 8 bolts and large washers for the battery box, fuel cell, and etc...
It`s 2014 people why would we even consider the multi-leaf crap is beyond me but it`s your deal. Caltracs at a minimum w/sliders will go a LONG way when tuned in for your car and I don`t know about you guys but I`m about progress NOT regress.............. 
If people would be focused on helping people instead of trying to sell them a new car it would be more helpfull.
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Re: caltrac
[Re: Clanton]
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12/23/14 02:03 PM
12/23/14 02:03 PM
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Yes, I talked to John Calvert, and the Mono-leaf would work better, but I will try the SS springs since I do drive the car on the street once in a while.
The rules/inspections are a number issues with Hose clamps, grade 8 bolts and large washers for the battery box, fuel cell, and etc...
It`s 2014 people why would we even consider the multi-leaf crap is beyond me but it`s your deal. Caltracs at a minimum w/sliders will go a LONG way when tuned in for your car and I don`t know about you guys but I`m about progress NOT regress..............
If people would be focused on helping people instead of trying to sell them a new car it would be more helpfull.
People have to learn what the spring does.. what the
front and rear of it does.. the front holds the axle
in location PLUS gives the lift(pushing down on the
axle)... the rear is the spring rate... in racing
we just want the rear to hold the body up.. we dont
want 14 leafs in the rear... if the rear has multi
leafs and is clamped as the body lifts at the hit
the pinion is rolling up giving the lift in the front
BUT it will also pull the back down.. so you have 2
forces fighting each other.. a single leaf in the rear
of the proper rate wont fight as much
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Re: caltrac
[Re: Thumperdart]
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12/23/14 02:31 PM
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If people would be focused on helping people instead of trying to sell them a new car it would be more helpfull.
You`re kidding right? Sez the guy w/a blown car on crap springs goin WAY slower than he should...........  Too funny.
I do what I can and that is my point about the OP.We can not get there all at once.
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Re: caltrac
[Re: lockjaw-express]
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12/23/14 02:43 PM
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Yes, I talked to John Calvert, and the Mono-leaf would work better, but I will try the SS springs since I do drive the car on the street once in a while.
I've been running my split mono's with C-T Bars on the street for a few years now. No issues, don't know why there would be any; in fact, they work great because you can back the preload out of the bars and have a nice soft ride. The bars rely on the controlled flex of the split mono's, and transfer that flex into effective motion. I don't see where adding C-T bars to SS springs (which are just plain stiff) will have any effect. (??) 
LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120
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Re: caltrac
[Re: cesar perez]
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12/23/14 02:44 PM
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The sliders are nice.. just keep them clean.. what MOST people forget is the rubber bushings on old cars are hard and tend to bind up.. if you run shackles the old bushings can cause issues.. they can bind then snap free.. chassis's dont like to be upset.. thats part of the reasons that people really like the sliders.. they put a new item on the car that isnt binding... plus the sliders lower the back of the car and in most cases that helps on traction (gets the CG down a little more so its easier to get the front over the CG point)... but if people would just lube the rubber points now and then it would help
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Re: caltrac
[Re: StealthWedge67]
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12/23/14 03:01 PM
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Yes, I talked to John Calvert, and the Mono-leaf would work better, but I will try the SS springs since I do drive the car on the street once in a while.
I've been running my split mono's with C-T Bars on the street for a few years now. No issues, don't know why there would be any; in fact, they work great because you can back the preload out of the bars and have a nice soft ride. The bars rely on the controlled flex of the split mono's, and transfer that flex into effective motion. I don't see where adding C-T bars to SS springs (which are just plain stiff) will have any effect. (??)
I can bend my ss like a twizzler[20* pinion up untell the u jount binds],what would a mono do?By the way Calvert told me if I liked my ride height/spring rate I did not need to go to a mono. 
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Re: caltrac
[Re: Thumperdart]
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12/23/14 03:11 PM
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Yes, I talked to John Calvert, and the Mono-leaf would work better, but I will try the SS springs since I do drive the car on the street once in a while.
I've been running my split mono's with C-T Bars on the street for a few years now. No issues, don't know why there would be any; in fact, they work great because you can back the preload out of the bars and have a nice soft ride. The bars rely on the controlled flex of the split mono's, and transfer that flex into effective motion. I don't see where adding C-T bars to SS springs (which are just plain stiff) will have any effect. (??)
I can bend my ss like a twizzler[20* pinion up untell the u jount binds],what would a mono do?By the way Calvert told me if I liked my ride height/spring rate I did not need to go to a mono.
Fightin this all the way..............  Just look at the c-trac design and your q`s will be answered.
I was speaking in relation to spring rate that the ss is more in the front segment]I agree to how the C-T work.
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Re: caltrac
[Re: Clanton]
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12/23/14 03:14 PM
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Yes, I talked to John Calvert, and the Mono-leaf would work better, but I will try the SS springs since I do drive the car on the street once in a while.
I've been running my split mono's with C-T Bars on the street for a few years now. No issues, don't know why there would be any; in fact, they work great because you can back the preload out of the bars and have a nice soft ride. The bars rely on the controlled flex of the split mono's, and transfer that flex into effective motion. I don't see where adding C-T bars to SS springs (which are just plain stiff) will have any effect. (??)
I can bend my ss like a twizzler[20* pinion up untell the u jount binds],what would a mono do?By the way Calvert told me if I liked my ride height/spring rate I did not need to go to a mono.
It sounds like your SS springs are shot...and yes you
wouldnt need to change the rear segments if your
spring RATE and height are good... they make mono
fronts all sorts of thickness BUT I'm sure he told
you with the CT bars it would work.. the bars act as
a bridge network to stiffen the spring... I assume
you know what a bridge network is).. but basically
its like a ladder bar but that comes to a single point
so it doesnt have anything sliding
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