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Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: b1dartsport] #1707585 12/07/14 09:40 PM 12/07/14 09:40 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,390 CA. RAY1969CARS pro stock
RAY1969CARS pro stock Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,390 CA.	Quote: If these #s are correct these puppies are in W8-9 territory. I better wait before I bolt the Indys on the new R3 shortblock I have on the stand right now!! Even though they are in W9 territory they are a 59� Head ,well they pull the same RPMs as a 48� block?

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: RAY1969CARS] #1707586 12/07/14 09:43 PM 12/07/14 09:43 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: If these #s are correct these puppies are in W8-9 territory. I better wait before I bolt the Indys on the new R3 shortblock I have on the stand right now!! Even though they are in W9 territory they are a 59� Head ,well they pull the same RPMs as a 48� block? IF you have a GOOD valve train

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: pittsburghracer] #1707587 12/07/14 10:02 PM 12/07/14 10:02 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Ritter block is available. I know of one that has $9000 worth of machine work and it still won't run and they have given up. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: RAY1969CARS] #1707588 12/07/14 10:25 PM 12/07/14 10:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 982 western pennsylvania b1dartsport super stock
b1dartsport super stock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 982 western pennsylvania	Quote: Quote: If these #s are correct these puppies are in W8-9 territory. I better wait before I bolt the Indys on the new R3 shortblock I have on the stand right now!! Even though they are in W9 territory they are a 59� Head ,well they pull the same RPMs as a 48� block? Just make it bigger, like 440-470 ci and you don't have to worry about the RPMs. It will make a ton of torque, more horsepower and operate in the same RPM range.

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: tubtar] #1707589 12/07/14 10:38 PM 12/07/14 10:38 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Lift Intake Exhaust .050 39.3 29.7 .100 75.8 57.4 .150 116.1 84.8 .200 167.4 115.5 .250 207.6 134.5 .300 238.5 154.1 .350 267.5 170.9 .400 296.2 187.0 .450 320.9 201.7 .500 339.3 212.3 .550 348.5 221.4 .600 357.3 227.7 .650 362.4 233.6 .700 366.7 238.6 .750 371.1 243.1 .800 371.3 246.7 Copied and pasted from their site. Very nice numbers.......definitely enough air to saw a stock block in half with the right corresponding components. I have seen some pretty high numbers of this bench, would like to see some others flow them. Can't wait to see some on track numbers in hands of racers. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: b1dartsport] #1707590 12/07/14 10:49 PM 12/07/14 10:49 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,390 CA. RAY1969CARS pro stock
RAY1969CARS pro stock Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,390 CA.	Quote: Quote: Quote: If these #s are correct these puppies are in W8-9 territory. I better wait before I bolt the Indys on the new R3 shortblock I have on the stand right now!! Even though they are in W9 territory they are a 59� Head ,well they pull the same RPMs as a 48� block? Just make it bigger, like 440-470 ci and you don't have to worry about the RPMs. It will make a ton of torque, more horsepower and operate in the same RPM range. What block are you going to bore that big. Lolol we're up the river with no paddle lolol Last edited by RAY1969CARS; 12/07/14 11:43 PM.

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: RAY1969CARS] #1707591 12/07/14 11:18 PM 12/07/14 11:18 PM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca W WHITEDART master
WHITEDART master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: If these #s are correct these puppies are in W8-9 territory. I better wait before I bolt the Indys on the new R3 shortblock I have on the stand right now!! Even though they are in W9 territory they are a 59� Head ,well they pull the same RPMs as a 48� block? Just make it bigger, like 440-470 ci and you don't have to worry about the RPMs. It will make a ton of torque, more horsepower and operate in the same RPM range. What block are you a boy that big. Lolol we're [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] lolol 40cfm short of bretts big port w8's but still a shot in the arm for sbm guys O and almost forgot ritter blocks dont work they are junk... A waste of good metal In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: WHITEDART] #1707592 12/07/14 11:30 PM 12/07/14 11:30 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Those flow almost as good as a cnc'd 6.4 head. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: WHITEDART] #1707593 12/07/14 11:35 PM 12/07/14 11:35 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,202 aZLiViN J J_BODY I Live Here
J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,202 aZLiViN	Quote: 40cfm short of bretts big port w8's but still a shot in the arm for sbm guys O and almost forgot ritter blocks dont work they are junk... A waste of good metal ....says whom I believe is the owner of the only Ritter block small block that survived a dyno session.

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: RAY1969CARS] #1707594 12/07/14 11:39 PM 12/07/14 11:39 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 982 western pennsylvania b1dartsport super stock
b1dartsport super stock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 982 western pennsylvania	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: If these #s are correct these puppies are in W8-9 territory. I better wait before I bolt the Indys on the new R3 shortblock I have on the stand right now!! Even though they are in W9 territory they are a 59� Head ,well they pull the same RPMs as a 48� block? Just make it bigger, like 440-470 ci and you don't have to worry about the RPMs. It will make a ton of torque, more horsepower and operate in the same RPM range. What block are you a boy that big. Lolol we're [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] lolol When I had my R3 sonic checked the Machinist told me it would go 4.125 easy. 4.125 X 4.250 BPE crank = 454.38 ci. A Siamese R3 will go 4.200 to 4.250. 4.250 x 4.250 = 482.33 ci. Don't tell me this would be too expensive,you are wasting your time if you use heads that flow like this with out spending some money to make them shine.

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: 72Swinger] #1707595 12/08/14 12:00 AM 12/08/14 12:00 AM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND fishy340 master
fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	Quote: Those flow almost as good as a cnc'd 6.4 head. Who cares about flow #s 20yr old Indy sb heads make more power then gen3 stiff..

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: b1dartsport] #1707596 12/08/14 12:01 AM 12/08/14 12:01 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,390 CA. RAY1969CARS pro stock
RAY1969CARS pro stock Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,390 CA.	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: If these #s are correct these puppies are in W8-9 territory. I better wait before I bolt the Indys on the new R3 shortblock I have on the stand right now!! Even though they are in W9 territory they are a 59� Head ,well they pull the same RPMs as a 48� block? Just make it bigger, like 440-470 ci and you don't have to worry about the RPMs. It will make a ton of torque, more horsepower and operate in the same RPM range. What block are you a boy that big. Lolol we're [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] lolol When I had my R3 sonic checked the Machinist told me it would go 4.125 easy. 4.125 X 4.250 BPE crank = 454.38 ci. A Siamese R3 will go 4.200 to 4.250. 4.250 x 4.250 = 482.33 ci. Don't tell me this would be too expensive,you are wasting your time if you use heads that flow like this with out spending some money to make them shine. How many small block guy. Are there out there that have aready jump ship went to the new hemi Small block race blocks are going to be worth their weight in gold

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: b1dartsport] #1707597 12/08/14 12:05 AM 12/08/14 12:05 AM
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Dunnuck Racing master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana	The exhaust numbers are pretty weak compared to the intake side. I don't know how you can justify the productionof a new head that would still be that weak on the eexhaust. Keith www.dunnuckracing.com

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1707598 12/08/14 12:26 AM 12/08/14 12:26 AM
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b1dartsport super stock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 982 western pennsylvania	Quote: The exhaust numbers are pretty weak compared to the intake side. I don't know how you can justify the productionof a new head that would still be that weak on the eexhaust. Keith I am real interested to see what these heads will do once some of the porting wizards on this site get their hands on them. If they are that good who knows what effort was put into them to get the numbers we are seeing. Its nice to see something that may be close to Max effort available for 59*. I think these may be a good replacement for the Indy 245 CC square port lawn sprinklers.

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: fishy340] #1707599 12/08/14 12:29 AM 12/08/14 12:29 AM
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GTS340 mopar Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 403 Romulus, MI	Quote: Quote: Those flow almost as good as a cnc'd 6.4 head. Who cares about flow #s 20yr old Indy sb heads make more power then gen3 stiff.. Could you elaborate on this? Specifics on the comparison between the two?

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: b1dartsport] #1707600 12/08/14 12:57 AM 12/08/14 12:57 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,028 Trumbull,CT. J jim sciortino top fuel
jim sciortino top fuel J Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,028 Trumbull,CT.	Quote: If these #s are correct these puppies are in W8-9 territory. I better wait before I bolt the Indys on the new R3 shortblock I have on the stand right now!! Nice numbers for a decent build, but nowhere near a killer W8. A W8 will support 1000+ with a cast single at 420ci.

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: GTS340] #1707601 12/08/14 01:53 AM 12/08/14 01:53 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Quote: Quote: Those flow almost as good as a cnc'd 6.4 head. Who cares about flow #s 20yr old Indy sb heads make more power then gen3 stiff.. Could you elaborate on this? Specifics on the comparison between the two? Look at his own car, 3235 lbs Cuda with indy 245 heads went 5.62 to the eight which is faster then the fastest nitrous hemi in country. He was shooting 150 the hemi is shooting 400 and only went 5.71. Proof is in a time slip not a dyno. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1707602 12/08/14 02:05 AM 12/08/14 02:05 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Those flow almost as good as a cnc'd 6.4 head. Who cares about flow #s 20yr old Indy sb heads make more power then gen3 stiff.. Could you elaborate on this? Specifics on the comparison between the two? Look at his own car, 3235 lbs Cuda with indy 245 heads went 5.62 to the eight which is faster then the fastest nitrous hemi in country. He was shooting 150 the hemi is shooting 400 and only went 4.71. Proof is in a time slip not a dyno. I was just poking at you guys, chill out. I love SB Mopes, im glad you guys are fast but WTF how is a 4.71 slower than a 5.62 mang? Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: 72Swinger] #1707603 12/08/14 02:16 AM 12/08/14 02:16 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Those flow almost as good as a cnc'd 6.4 head. Who cares about flow #s 20yr old Indy sb heads make more power then gen3 stiff.. Could you elaborate on this? Specifics on the comparison between the two? Look at his own car, 3235 lbs Cuda with indy 245 heads went 5.62 to the eight which is faster then the fastest nitrous hemi in country. He was shooting 150 the hemi is shooting 400 and only went 4.71. Proof is in a time slip not a dyno. I was just poking at you guys, chill out. I love SB Mopes, im glad you guys are fast but WTF how is a 4.71 slower than a 5.62 mang? Sorry fixed it, typo. When they get the rockers figured out on the hemi it will be a good race motor. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1707604 12/08/14 02:29 AM 12/08/14 02:29 AM
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WHITEDART master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	now T&D is making a nice rocker arm for the hemi.and harlem sharp has a new version seems to work well.I don't think it's fair that we compare a performance w series or aftermarket Indy head to a production Gen 3 In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

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