Re: UPDATED BORGESON FAST RATIO STEERING BOX
[Re: Uhcoog1]
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12/06/14 06:44 PM
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Brian
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For me, after driving uncoog1’s Duster this summer which has the Borgeson box, I was flat blown away with the way that car drove. Wayne turned me on to Peter as a long A-Body street/road race guy. When it came time to decide on the steering box, I went with Borgeson purchased from Peter because he drives what he sells and puts his name in front of it. The problems with some of the Borgeson boxes were manufacturing defects. Peter doesn’t make these boxes; he sells them at a very competitive price.
When these issues first came to light on this board, I had some conversations with Peter. I trust his judgment and ability to negotiate with Borgeson. Let’s think twice before we burn down a Mopar business that sells merchandise that occasionally may have an issue. My experience is that Peter will go to bat for the Mopar community to make things right.
As a side note, after completing the mockup of a 5.7 block with a Hemi head, uncoog1’s battered TTI driver side header and the Borgeson box, everything fit. It was tight, but it was straight. I’m looking forward to the spring when I get my heap on the road thanks to Mopart member uncoog1, AlexP and Peter.
1971 6.1 Gen III Hemi Duster
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Re: UPDATED BORGESON FAST RATIO STEERING BOX
[Re: BigBlockMopar]
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12/06/14 10:33 PM
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TTI re-jigged their headers after enough complaints and the original is a go now. I now wish TTI would make an 1 7/8" primary version.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: UPDATED BORGESON FAST RATIO STEERING BOX
[Re: dangina]
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12/07/14 01:32 PM
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Trojmn
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Right on about the coupler. I'm not sure why anyone would use a solid connector in place of the OEM slider. The $100 less might push me over the tipping point i need to do something anyways with my junk box
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Re: UPDATED BORGESON FAST RATIO STEERING BOX
[Re: 4speeds4me]
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01/11/15 10:50 AM
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EV2CUDA
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I also want to know if it will withstand the high pressure Hemi ps. I have the early borgeson box. It leaked fluid and was missing the coupler. Peter took care of the problems. He did his best to help and is an enthusiast like us. Thank you.
71 Barracuda 383 4spd (500ci) 69 camaro 598, NOS 69 barracuda bbc procharger 77 t/a 6.0 turbo project 78 t/a 400 77 corvette 1983 hurst/olds 03 Viper 79 360 macho 71 demon 360 78 Warlock 5.7 hemi project
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Re: UPDATED BORGESON FAST RATIO STEERING BOX
[Re: Supercuda]
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03/19/15 02:37 PM
03/19/15 02:37 PM
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Sxrxrnr
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Borgeson is not taking back the old boxes. I do not manufacture these boxes, they do.
For someone who has not bought this box or tried it, Tom - you have a lot to say. I wish you'd call me directly with your concerns.
I agree the angularity of the box has been established, but only in certain cases. However, even in the cases where the shafts weren't straight like the originals, NONE of the customers complained that has affected their steering. Remember 2 things, the coupler can take up some angle without a problem and look at new cars or rack applications with crazy angles.
This is the toughest board in the Mopar biz, and it has undoubtedly scared vendors away from posting here on numerous occasions. Most of the haters here have not bought the product or been concerned enough to call me directly.
I've been a contributor to this board for 10+ years a vendor and an advertiser. If you have legitimate concerns ask in a manner like you would face to face rather than throwing stones from behind your keyboard.
My number is 631 423 1517 if you want to speak intelligently to me.
Wow.
hater for point out defects in design and manufacturing?.
Last resort there.
Borgeson put out an overpriced half @ssed designed and built box, I will point out that you stepped up to address some of the issues with installing one, which if Borgeson was on the ball they would have already done and not had to rely on their customers to be beta testers and their resellers to be the R&D department.
To refresh your memory
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rt=all&vc=1
Of course in that thread it's the haters that are the problem once again, I notice your mouth conspicuously snapped shut once the OP posted exactly the contortions he had to go thru with both you and Borgeson before he could get something done, which was to buy another box, send in the defective one and hope the Borgeson would agree it was defective and refund his purchase price.
Lesson learned here? Do not buy Borgeson stuff and do not patronize Bergman AutoKrap. Might not fix the problem but I'll be one less aggravation to deal with.
I just now reviewed the above URL as posted.
In this tread I said that I had built a 1/8th inch thick shim to correctly position this box on our E Body. It should have read 1/4th inch thick shim. The posting is past the time when I can edit this URL directly.
Some months of running it now, must say it has been an excellent performer, albeit a tough journey getting there.
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Re: UPDATED BORGESON FAST RATIO STEERING BOX
[Re: Sxrxrnr]
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03/20/15 12:48 AM
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I only wish I could afford one. I need the clearance for my headers on my hemi. Tim
1941 Taylorcraft 1968 Charger 1994 Wrangler 1998 Wrangler 2008 Kia Rio 2017 Jetta
I didn't do 4 years and 9 months of Graduate School to be called Mister!
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Re: UPDATED BORGESON FAST RATIO STEERING BOX
[Re: gold66cuda]
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03/20/15 11:26 AM
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Dan@Hotchkis
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Just want to say I put one of these on my car, a 66 Cuda over the winter and now have a couple of hundred miles on it and have to say it is one of the best upgrades I have done. I had a Firm Feel 3 with a reduced pressure pump on the car for about 10 years before this which was a great upgrade over stock but this unit is a way better upgrade! I have to add this thing was a direct bolt in, no alignment issues, just plug and play!
That is really good to hear. I'm going to try to work one of these into a future build.
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