Re: Small block Cam Dilemma
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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11/21/14 05:06 PM
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Best way to solve the dilema is to build the motor the way you like and put it in your car, and enjoy the car. That way the only person that needs to be made happy is you. Win, win
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: Small block Cam Dilemma
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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11/21/14 08:24 PM
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I think a lot of guys are forgetting that he started this post asking about RESALE purposes.
yep more like a thinly veiled for sale add, but i don't mind
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Re: Small block Cam Dilemma
[Re: Quicktree]
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11/21/14 09:47 PM
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I think a lot of guys are forgetting that he started this post asking about RESALE purposes.
yep more like a thinly veiled for sale add, but i don't mind
That's what I saw it as. A solicitation of sorts, with hopes of members PM,ing him asking him to build this SB or that.
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Re: Small block Cam Dilemma
[Re: Dunnuck Racing]
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11/21/14 10:43 PM
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I have built and run all of them FT, Hyd Roller and solid rollers. If its a 100% race motor than for me its a solid roller period. For a street\strip motor than maybe a Hyd roller but I would never do another FT and its not because I am afraid of them its just old azz technology, and you can just get a much better lobe going to a roller.
70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake
best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4
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Re: Small block Cam Dilemma
[Re: Dunnuck Racing]
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11/21/14 11:55 PM
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Monte, My post wasn't really aimed at you. It's just that there are so many guys beating down flat tappet builds anymore that the guy with very little budget is almost bullied into thinking if he doesn't spend the money for a roller he will destroy his engine. I personally enjoy out running big inch roller cammed race fueled bracket cars with a flat tappet stock stroke pump gas build.
But I'm poor so maybe that's why??? Keith
Yeah, but you are not doing that because you have a FT cam. You are doing that because the other guy just likely has a pile of mismatched parts and you have a well sorted combo.
I like everybody else ran a big FT years ago, but that was because you HAD to. Don't now, so I surely don't.
And the cost thing in my opinion is blown WAY out of proportion. Somebody said it cost $1500 to put a roller cam in his motor. Really, how was that. A FT is $200 a roller is $350.......so that's $150. Then lifters for a FT are $125 and roller lifters are $350 and up. So that's less than $400 more the roller setup costs you. Now if you went from a small hydraulic and had to buy springs, locks, retainers, pushrods etc, you could spend that much......but wouldn't all those same parts be required if you went to a BIG FT??.......Then there is the aggravation of breaking the FT in properly and the fear of wiping a lobe off it doing so..........No thanks, I will spend the extra $500 or so.
I understand a budget, I really do, but I am also a believer in spending my money wisely, on things that will help the motor and make it MORE reliable. Because more times than not, it ends up saving you money in the long run.
Monte
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Re: Small block Cam Dilemma
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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11/22/14 01:21 AM
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Monte, My post wasn't really aimed at you. It's just that there are so many guys beating down flat tappet builds anymore that the guy with very little budget is almost bullied into thinking if he doesn't spend the money for a roller he will destroy his engine. I personally enjoy out running big inch roller cammed race fueled bracket cars with a flat tappet stock stroke pump gas build.
But I'm poor so maybe that's why??? Keith
Yeah, but you are not doing that because you have a FT cam. You are doing that because the other guy just likely has a pile of mismatched parts and you have a well sorted combo.
I like everybody else ran a big FT years ago, but that was because you HAD to. Don't now, so I surely don't.
And the cost thing in my opinion is blown WAY out of proportion. Somebody said it cost $1500 to put a roller cam in his motor. Really, how was that. A FT is $200 a roller is $350.......so that's $150. Then lifters for a FT are $125 and roller lifters are $350 and up. So that's less than $400 more the roller setup costs you. Now if you went from a small hydraulic and had to buy springs, locks, retainers, pushrods etc, you could spend that much......but wouldn't all those same parts be required if you went to a BIG FT??.......Then there is the aggravation of breaking the FT in properly and the fear of wiping a lobe off it doing so..........No thanks, I will spend the extra $500 or so.
I understand a budget, I really do, but I am also a believer in spending my money wisely, on things that will help the motor and make it MORE reliable. Because more times than not, it ends up saving you money in the long run.
Monte
I'm the king of cheap.....you CAN buy used roler cams cheap....and get roller lifters rebuilt....lol lots of good used stuff out there for the smart shopper . Helps to if you know/trust the guy you buy from.mimgot some roller cams that I'll sell cheap.
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Re: Small block Cam Dilemma
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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11/22/14 05:58 AM
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I personally have had WAY more roller lifter failures than I have solid cam failures.
This is what I have been hearing also
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